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Daughter's family name

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For crying out loud, could the various, presumably Latvian, editors (21.trolejbuss, InLatvianFemaleNamesEndsWithEorA, Aiviekste, Riga Daugava) please agree on his daughter's family name, Nelsons or Nelsone? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:21, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that your question was intended sarcastically, since I am willing to guess without doing a formal investigation that all 4 of the above editors on Andris Nelsons' page are the same person. (Of course, there is also another idiot wikipedian who continually cites Norman Lebrecht's blog as a reliable reference source.) Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 17:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
and I repeat that the family name of a baby is not needed until that girl is notable herself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why speculative text does not belong in a wikipedia article

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The essay by Martin Kettle is certainly entertaining reading, but it is speculation on who Rattle's successor could be. The whole point of wikipedia is to be an objective source of documented facts. Speculation is just that: 'speculation'. Speculation on what could or might happen has absolutely no place in a wikipedia article, which again (and I will repeat it until the message registers, so we could be here a while) is meant to be a clearly documented record of facts that have actually occurred. Kettle names other conductors who could be contenders for the Berlin post. Does that mean that each conductor should have such gossip mentioned in wikipedia? No, it does not.

Besides that, the Kettle essay as a reference was not properly formatted. But that is a moot point, because it does not report an actual appointment to the orchestra. DJRafe (talk) 06:18, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are the page's original author, I will give in and let you have your way. However, you don't seem to realize the extent to which Nelsons is being projected, nor how serious this would be for him. I cited the article simply to back up my insertion, although he is being talked about all over the web. To call this "gossip" is ridiculous, considering his credentials and the seriousness of his "candidacy". German newspapers were citing him as a threat to Rattle's position before Rattle announced his resignation. The idea that speculation has no place on Wikipedia is also clearly flawed. Have you ever visited pages for politicians? I agree that such speculation should be used in moderation, but when the top job in Classical music is in question, that's another story. User: Andrewbarnard —Preceding undated comment added 14:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion

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An editor deleted this widely covered statement by Nelsons, apparently not believing that two RSs were sufficient. Perhaps he wants to conceal it; who knows. I've of course restored it, with additional RS refs.--2604:2000:E016:A700:7057:AD6C:8DD4:947A (talk) 18:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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