Talk:Antonie Pannekoek

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Council Communism[edit]

I have reworded the main section in 'Council Communism' in an attempt

  • to reflect Pannekoek's belief that theory followed and crystalised the lessons learned in struggle,
  • to make more explicit the significance of the Russian revolution for workers' councils,
  • to give some context on workers' councils (ie opposition to trade unionism/parliamentarianism).

Hope that's okay. Mattley

activities during WWII?[edit]

How did Pannekoek keep out of trouble when Nazi Germany occupied the Netherlands in WWII? WpZurp 07:37, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • A good question, to which I do not have the answer myself.

--Martin Wisse 01:48, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • I'm reading Pannekoek and the Workers' Councils by Serge Bricanier at the moment. Haven't got to World War II yet but if I find an answer I'll get back to you. Mattley 11:51, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • There's nothing in Bricianer's book about this. I remember hearing that the Nazis made Pannekoek sign a document promising not to engage in 'political' activity. Note that he did however write most of 'Workers' Councils' during this time, although it was not published. There is some info at 23:46, 1 Sep 2005 (BST)
  • I read in a biography that he wrote his book "de arbeidersraden" (no idea about an english title) under the pseudonyme P. Aertsz during WWII and he also wrote his memoires. yanneman 19:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
de "arbeidersraden" is Dutch for the "Workers' councils", ISBN 1902593561 JdH 13:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

was he the Dutch Astronomer Royal?[edit]

A left-Leninist once told me that Anton Pannekoek was at one time the Dutch Astronomer Royal. I have read the main works on or by Pannekoek in English, and also his History of Astronomy, but I do not know whether this is true or not. If it is true, it should be mentioned here. I have emailed the Anton Pannekoek Astronomical Institute and asked them. --158-152-12-77 00:17, 26 August 2005 (BST)

This does not sound very plausible. The government did not want him to become a scientist at the Leiden observatory so how could they ever name him Dutch Astronomer Royal? yanneman 19:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

According to he was a member of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences. He was also a professor at the University of Amsterdam. It appears that while the government did not endorse his appointment at the University of Leiden (which is a State University) they did not stop his appointment at the University of Amsterdam (a municipal University), nor his election as member of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences. JdH 13:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


Pronunciation - Pronunciation of the last name 'Pannekoek' would be useful, in fact it is the reason why in am here on english wiki :) A friend of mine says it is 'Pannekuk', but i am not convinced. (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Marco58

"Pannekoek" is pronounced "pun-a-cook". As an aside, "pannekoek" means "pancake"; not the most unusual Dutch surname I've come across, but close.--Life in General (Talk) 16:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)