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Notability

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This railway station article is a candidate for redirect to and merger with its parent railway system. It has insufficient verifiable material to be considered a comprehensive article.

This article, like many other India-railstation-stubs, has only one or two sources. The article is a recitation in text of characteristics and numbers from the Indiarailinfo website. Likewise, references to NDTV are not press, but are recitations of a similar database. These articles add no value to the user. Many were edited by rote or programmatically. They share the same sentence structure with attendant errors in style. A list of the trains that pass the station is problematic. It provides insufficient information to a traveler (notwithstanding WP is NOTTIMEABLE) and is likely to become stale in time anyway. Images of the staioin sign alone do not convey any useful information, except for the existence of the station.

There are 8,500 railway stations in India. It is not systemic or cultural bias to assert that they are not all notable. An article does not add value to a reader if it simply duplicates the information in NDTV or Indiarailinfo. This station is an example of a non-notable topic as described in Wikipedia:Notability_(Railway_lines_and_stations). There is no significant press coverage in English at least.

There are many thousands of railway and subway stations. The question is sometimes raised as to whether one of these places is notable enough for a standalone article. Wikipedia:Notability says: "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."
It may be considered that if enough attributable information is available about a station on a main system to verify that it exists, it generally is appropriate for the subject to have its own article. For proposed or planned stations, historic railways stations that only existed briefly, or stations on metro, light rail, tram, people mover, or heritage railway lines, if insufficient source material is available for a comprehensive article, it is better to mention the station in an article about the line or system that the station is on.

This post is my notification of intent to REDIRECT the station article to its parent rail line. If at such time as the station becomes notable and can support its own article, the original article text including infobox and photo of the station sign can be recovered from the REDIRECT history. Rhadow (talk) 13:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and subsequent article quality

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In accord with my intent stated above -- and to which there was no objection posted -- I redirected this article. A few days later, there were discussions elsewhere about similar matters (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RfC_India_railway_stations and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hapa_Road_railway_station). As a result of those discussions, this article was restored. From an administrative perspective it is a non-event. From a WP reader's perspective, it's the same as a new article. Imagine you were a New Page Patroller. Would this article pass muster? It has a single source, connected with the subject. It's ten-year-old web archive, formatted as an external link. Therefore, the article has no footnotes. The text of the article describes nothing about the station. Does it have platforms? Does it have a ticket-sales counter? How many people use the station?
No, the article describes only what line it is on and what stations are accessible.
Yes, the station deserves a mention in Wikipedia. Given the information we have, it belongs in the Hyderabad Multi-Modal Transport System. When the article can be fleshed out with information on the station, then fine, the article should reappear in all its glory. Until then and in its present state, the article is of little or no use to a reader. A sensible editor should see that the article is not ready for prime time; it's drivel. A new article gets the benefit of the doubt. This one, however, has had a decade to mature, which it apparently hasn't. We should strive for a higher standard. Rhadow (talk) 13:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Two duplicative entries for this subject

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There are two entries in the mainspace now, Arts College Railway Station, which has been redirected to Hyderabad Multi-Modal Transport System and Arts College railway station which was for a time redirected and has had its article in current form restored. Rhadow (talk) 11:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]