Talk:Attachment therapy

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Article Bias[edit]

This article seems far from neutral and rife with sensationalism. A large chunk of the "cases" are just flat out child abuse without any strong association to attachment therapy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.193.84.76 (talk) 22:00, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Specifically..? You're welcome to improve it (that's the beauty of Wikipedia :) ).--Rhododendrites (talk) 00:34, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I would also agree that this article is overly one sided. As a foster parent, we are actually taught "attachment therapy techniques" through the agency that do not involve half of what is noted in this article, some of which is grossly mis-represented and some what we are taught is not even mentioned here (such as rocking, snuggling and safe holding - not to mention a strict adherence against violence and physical punishment as attachment affected children respond far more negatively to this than other children). For example, techniques involving eye contact are not to "force" a child but to teach them how to make eye contact, much like you would with, say, an autistic child. And we are talking not about kids who aren't "fast, snappy and right the first time" and not "fun to be around". We are talking about children who are violent, destructive and potentially sociopathic without some kind of intervention. Believe me, if Children and Family Services is teaching this to foster parents, it can't be something that could potentially get them sued - you know by accidentally killing or hurting the kid.

I am just a foster parent who has taken some classes and has employed actual techniques (not the ones described in this article) with success, but I do not feel I am qualified to rebalance this article with any authority because I am not an expert. Even if I felt that I could expertly update this article, I have a feeling from the vitriol expressed in the article (and related articles), any changes I would make would be "edited" out anyway to accomplish an agenda.

This is the first time I have read an article on Wikipedia that made me doubt the validity of information found on Wikipedia. This article and others related to it do contain information that is accurate in the historical aspect of attachment therapy, they are blatantly biased or exclusionary against current beliefs and not demonstrative of the subject at large. A disappointment to say the least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFC3:73D0:9483:D238:7535:32CD (talk) 19:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

However, in reviewing these examples, it appears that these were cases of child abuse by a parent as opposed to "attachment therapy" interventions by licensed mental health professionals, for example see: [1][2] NAUIInstructor (talk) 01:02, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

References
  1. ^ Welsh, Nick (3 May 2007), "'Caged Kids' Case Nears End, Vasquez's Fate in Judge's Hands", The Santa Barbara Independent, retrieved 2008-04-18 
  2. ^ Welsh, Nick (11 May 2007), "Judge Brings Hammer Down in 'Caged Kids' Case", The Santa Barbara Independent, retrieved 2008-06-18 

new edit[edit]

"Although the term attachment disorder is ambiguous" and other quotes for the article by Chaffin et. al support my addition. See the article: Report of the APSAC Task Force on Attachment Therapy, Reactive Attachment Disorder, and Attachment Problems.

Argon&Helium (talk) 02:01, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Removed contributions of a sock[edit]

A user active on this article, Argon&Helium, looks to have been banned as a sock puppet in a long-term abuse case:

Accordingly, I have removed the content added by this user. Regardless, this is not an area of expertise for me, so if there's consensus that parts of the user's contributions were productive, feel free to add them back in. --— Rhododendrites talk |  14:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

balance valquez[edit]

I've added this material as a balance to valaquez: However, in reviewing these examples, it appears that these were cases of child abuse by a parent as opposed to "attachment therapy" interventions by licensed mental health professionals, for example see: [1][2] --SlanWeinberg (talk) 14:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Either you re-added it, or you're saying that you are NAUIInstructor (talk · contribs).
It is blatant WP:SYN, so removed once again. --Ronz (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
And removed again by a different editor. Please respond if you're still interested in adding it or something similar. --Ronz (talk) 17:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
My edits were removed without any discussion on this talk page. I think that is in violation of wikipedia policy and sounds like they are engaged in an edit war SlanWeinberg (talk) 01:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
No discussion other than my comments above that is. How about acknowledge and respond to the policy concerns there, or are you giving up on adding it at this point? --Ronz (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ronz. I don't see how the addition of reliable sources violates any policy????SlanWeinberg (talk) 00:50, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

The policy that has been repeatedly brought up as justification for the removal is WP:Original research. Basically, the concerns here are that the proposed addition to the article is not actually verified by the sources, but rather a synthesis derived from them. If you feel that it is properly verified from the sources, then explain how. --Ronz (talk) 17:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

FYI: SlanWeinberg and NAUIInstructor have been banned as sock puppets. --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

References
  1. ^ Welsh, Nick (3 May 2007), "'Caged Kids' Case Nears End, Vasquez's Fate in Judge's Hands", The Santa Barbara Independent, retrieved 2008-04-18 
  2. ^ Welsh, Nick (11 May 2007), "Judge Brings Hammer Down in 'Caged Kids' Case", The Santa Barbara Independent, retrieved 2008-06-18