Talk:Babe Carey

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Former good article nomineeBabe Carey was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Babe's adulterous intimacy with Josh in the Flings & Relationships section[edit]

It seems that part of the article isn't necessarily agreed upon as to what to call it here in the description. Some editors put affair; others put "One-night stand, kisses"...or "One-night stand; several kisses."

I feel that it should either be "One-night stand; kisses or "One-night stand; several kisses"... Or "One-night stand/emotional affair."

My reasoning of labeling it "One-night stand/emotional affair" over just putting "Affair" is that some people ask how many times did Babe have sex with Josh while cheating on J.R.. They want to know if it was an ongoing aspect. Well, if we put the word "affair" that leads one (in fact, most people) to believe that Babe had sex with Josh several times.

But if we put "One-night stand/emotional affair"...then it's like, "Ah-ha, they only had sex once." I mean, yes, Babe had sex with Josh more than once, but it was a one-night stand. She had sex with him twice in one night. Flyer22 12:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Flyer22

I think it's fair to put affair. I see no other way to describe it. Babe had an affair with Josh. It was an emotional affair as well as a physical one. She confided in Josh and "cheated" on JR emotionally all threw out the summer of 06' with them finally consummating their relationship at the end of September. Yes she slept with Josh that one night. Once on the Fusion floor and then again in the pool on top of the Fusion rooftop. But if we are putting "emotional affair/one night stand" why don't we just simply it and just put affair?- Skinwalker

  • As I stated a little above, and on an editor's talk page as of the Relationships section of Babe Carey's article, I feel that it's best classified as a one-night stand/kisses or a few kisses between Babe and Josh, because classifying it as an affair in that section next to Josh's name leads many people to believe that Babe and Josh had more than one sexual encounter with each other. But, of course, in truth, Babe and Josh only had one sexual encounter with each other, not more than one. So if we are going to put affair in that regard, it should be "emotional affair". I feel that putting one-night stand/emotional affair beside Josh's name in Babe's Flings and romantic relationshps section is perfect to describe exactly what type of "romantic" relationship Babe had with Josh. The wording "one-night stand, few kisses" perfectly describes it as well, more so than "affair" only being that wording. Flyer22 01:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Amanda and Babe[edit]

I added alittle more information about Amanda and Babe's relationship circa 2005-2006

  • Yeah, I'm sure you already know by now, but I left a message on your talk page about why I edited that out.

There's too much plot summary in this article, and a lot of television show articles on Wikipedia, but Wikipedia doesn't want articles like that, as seen with this link...Wikipedia articles are not plot summaries...and strives to clean up articles with too much plot summary in them, among other type of issues that need cleaning up on Wikipedia. This article's plot summary really needs to be edited down more so than what it is at this moment. Flyer22 02:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Update?[edit]

It seems like this page is in need of an update. There is no inclusion of Ritchie Novak, the love triangle between Ritchie/Babe/JR nor is there an update on the relationship between Babe/Ritchie. It seems like the article ended back in October and it is now five to six months outdated.Skinwalker03 (talk) 00:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean, Skinwalker, about no mention of Richie Novak. It does mention him, and how Babe was romantically involved with him, but grew closer to J.R. again. It's not that far behind, since it stops at J.R. and Babe's game of strip poker (two months ago). It does currently need an update, though.
I'm not sure how much more emphasis should be put on the wannabe love triangle between the three of them, however. Flyer22 (talk) 01:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It appears that within the eleven day difference there has been more of an update. Previously the article was stuck back in October 2007 as opposed to late May 2008.Skinwalker03 (talk) 20:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

GA failed[edit]

I failed the GA nomination for this article for multiple reasons (note: not because the GAN tag was on the article instead of the talk page, a screw-up I've never seen before):

  1. The intro is too short. It should be at least two full paragraphs long.
  2. More than half of the article is devoid of references.
  3. The storyline section is unreferenced and written in a highly unencyclopedic tone ("After hearing Babe is married to an extremely wealthy man and is pregnant, a proud Krystal, who hasn't seen her daughter in years, decides to travel to Pine Valley to make sure that Babe's happiness isn't jeopardized..." for instance). On top of that, the storyline section as a whole is torturously over-detailed to the point of fan cruft.

Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 13:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

This article should have never been listed for GA this soon[edit]

As an experienced editor of matters such as these, at first glance, l (like you) can easily tell that this article isn't ready for GA status. I suppose for newer editors or editors unfamiliar with the GA or FA processes, like the one who nominated this article, it's more difficult to tell.

As for the plot summary, I don't feel that the tone is that unencyclopedic, however. It needs tweaking, but it accurately describes what and how all that transpired. As for sourcing plot summaries, as I stated on the J.R. Chandler talk page, I don't feel that they need referencing since the shows or films are the references themselves. Examples are the Titanic (1997 film), Halloween (1978 film), etc., but I understand how due to soap opera episodes being harder to come by after they air, sourcing their plot summaries makes more sense. Also, plot summaries for soap operas tend to be longer due to airing new episodes five times a week. Case in point -- featured article Pauline Fowler. Flyer22 (talk) 07:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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