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Cas, I've removed your statement
Banksia violacea is mostly nonlignotuberous, though some plants with lignotubers have been found in the western part of its range.
from the description section, just while we figure out what the situation is. George 1981 refers to northern populations that "apparently do have them, though they have not been seen in post-fire situations". Lignotuberous plants continue to be mentioned in the 1984 and 1987 editions of The Banksia Book, and in the 1988 and 1991 editions of the Banksia Atlas. But the 1999 Flora of Australia states straight out that they are non-lignotuberous. My reading of this is that the claim that there are lignotuberous populations was shown to be false in the 1990s. Have you any other information?
I put a brief coverage of this in the ecology section, which you mustn't have noticed.
Hesperian 02:17, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Certainly that could be the case, although I wouldn't be surprised if a question mark over lignotuberous ones simply disappeared off the radar. I know, let's ask Alex :) cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 06:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- George 81 and/or 87 (can't remember exactly at the moment) said only marginata and violacea (if it is counted). Let's face it; these are great references but they are getting old. I'm not surprised to hear that ashbyi and paludosa have been added to the list.
- Ah, you're right. I've just had a dig through Lamont and Markey's "Biogeography of fire-killed and resprouting Banksia species in South-western Australia", and it has a pretty detailed discussion of how ashbyi and violacea have lignotuberous and non-lignotuberous variants. That will teach me to give too much weight to the absence of information.
- Hesperian 06:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
image of woody cone?
- Yes please. Hesperian 03:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- ex.cellent. Hesperian 11:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I've stuck them in. They're not in particularly sensible locations, but at least they are spread around and give the article a bit of colour. Hesperian 11:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for jumping on the violacea bandwagon with me; nice to have some company. Hesperian 12:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
To avoid clogging up the FAC page, here are some detailed comments:
- Infobox: what does "unranked" mean? This is just my own curiosity
- "is generally encountered as a..." why not "is generally a..."
- Link inflorescences in the second sentence?
- According to Western Australia, "Western Australian" → "West Australian"
- Throughout the article, should "Charles Gardner" be "Charles Austin Gardner" to match our article?
- "it is rarely seen in cultivation" → "it is rarely cultivated". Simpler, IMO.
- "with narrow leaves
which are1–2 cm (0.4–0.8 in) long"
- "about 1.5 millimetres wide" shouldn't there be a conversion, and millimetres abbreviated for consistency?
- The shortness of the sentence beginning "New growth occurs" makes for choppy reading; I think it can be merged with the next sentence
- You use "occur" in three consecutive sentences: "growth occurs", "flowering occurs", "flowers occur"
- I'm not sure what is meant by "fruiting structure". Is it the entire plant while the process of fruiting is taking place, or is it a structure within the plant? Assuming it's the latter, a suitable link might be useful in helping readers.
- "When young, they are greenish..." is this referring to B. violacea in general or to the follicles?
- "separator is the same dimensions" I tend to think of dimensions as a possession, not a characteristic, so "separator has the same dimensions" or "separator is the same size". Just me being picky, though
- I don't like the "and also" structure in the sentence beginning "The seedling leaves are crowded..." See if you can reword.
- I think you can remove the comma before "in the vicinity"
- "How to Know Western Australian Wildflowers" is apparently "How to know Western Australian wildflowers" (note capitalization) according to our article. This also needs to be fixed in the references
- The repetition here can probably be alleviated: "taxa with very long and slender styles, and with smoothly convex perianth limbs without a costal ridge and with thickened margins"
- "to his 1981 broader definition" might sound better with "to his broader 1981 definition"
- Distribution and habitat
- The year of the Conservation Act (or years the species has been assessed) would be a welcome piece of information
- "the phosphorus-deficient
nativesoils of Australia"
- "and probably does not flower" why "probably"? I suggest "usually" or "generally", or perhaps "probably does not"
- I'm not fond with a sentence starting "However"
- Refs 5 and 13 should have retrieval dates
- Mast is linked in ref 11 but not in other references he is given as the author
- Ref 14 should have a question mark following the title
- Because I can't find anything on evolutionary history in the main Banksia article, I would expect there to be something here (e.g., what evolutionary advantage did their features give them, what type of speciation separated them from their Banksia colleagues, etc.)
- The External links section is empty
Mostly just minor prose fixes, but the article would surely be considered comprehensive if more on evolution is added. But if nothing out there is written on it, however unfortunate that may be, we'll have to make do. Otherwise, very nice. Mm40 (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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