Talk:Bar Keepers Friend

This article was nominated for deletion on 28 February 2017 (UTC). The result of the discussion was withdrawn.

This article was nominated for deletion on 5 July 2012 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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I don't know who removed the speedy deletion tag. Since it's gone I'm not putting a 'hangon' tag on the main article, but I certainly don't agree that this meets the criteria for speedy deletion. I actually posted this article because I'm on a task force on reader conversion that's considering the impact on wikipedia of our low levels of representation by certain groups of people, such as women. I thought to myself, "what categories of article might we be missing on wikipedia due to lack of female editors?" and the first thing that came to mind was the "domestic sciences" - home economics, cleaning, childcare, etc. I found out about Bar Keeper's Friend a couple years ago and when I posted about it on my blog a bunch of people spoke up about it, so it came to mind as a useful piece of domestic science knowledge that should be here. I was actually surprised that on my first guess I found a fairly worthy topic - a reliable household & service industry product that's been around for over a hundred years - that was missing from wikipedia. There are pages for Comet and Ajax; why would this be any less appropriate? I tried to balance the article by including the warning against using it on real marble, pewter, and silver. I have no financial relationship with the Bar Keepers Friend people, so I'm not advertising for them, I just think this is a useful topic for a wikipedia article. Statements as to the quality of the product were included in order to try to meet the notability requirement, not to advertise. Netmouse (talk) 02:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know who edited this but I've added it back for deletion and am sorely tempted to do it with my backspace key. In the past few hours two references were added, one a 404 and the other hardly of serious note. There is a flurry of activity which is attempting to correct the more egregious violations of policy but the basic fact remains that this is a non-notable product, not the sole source of oxalic acid, has nothing to do with Prohibition, and any further links which may be added in the continued attempt to keep this item alive are likely to be at least as irrelevant. DELETE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. BadDoggie (talk) 19:46, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not it is intended to be so, this article is 100 per cent commercial advertisement, therefore should be rapidly deleted. If there were an article on "Cleaning Materials", there might be justification for including details of several proprietary products, but a stand-alone article on a single product is an advertisement. Darkman101 (talk) 19:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This has again been removed by an unknown author from the deletion list with no comment. DELETE WITH PREJUDICE. BadDoggie (talk) 14:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source check

This is pretty much a straight up advert - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL Jbh ^Talk 02:19, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The more this article grows, the worse it gets. No amount of references will make it notable, especially those which don't pass the WP:PRIMARY smell test. I suppose I shouldn't get worked up though, given how many such articles grace the pages of WP. Ugh.184.145.42.19 (talk) 03:58, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not have a promotional tone at this time. Primary sources are usable to verify some content in articles. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:26, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"originally to remove rhubarb from metal pans"

This is both nonsensical, also a rather obvious corruption in passing the message.

There is no problem in cleaning rhubarb from metal pans. It's not hard to clean off, and in fact rhubarb is well known as being a cleaning agent for metal pans. Barkeeper's Friend is made from rhubarb - the oxalic acid content of the inedible leaves (and slightly of the edible stems) is the main cleaning agent within it. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:38, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, the text in question is cited in the footnoted source at the end of the sentence in question. (In 1883, George William Hoffman, an Indianapolis chemist and owner of the George William Hoffman Company, used a powder he concocted to clean rhubarb from a metal pan. [1] ) Yes, I agree that it seems odd, but it appears to be a reliable source. I added it for otherwise there would be no sourcing for the inventor other than a patent application, which is OR. Coretheapple (talk) 16:27, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and by the way I've cooked rhurbarb and I agree with you. If you want to remove it I won't complain. Perhaps the source got it all garbled. Coretheapple (talk) 16:33, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, on further consideration I tend to agree, and I took it out myself. Coretheapple (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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