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getting tired of cleaning up extraneous {{harv}} templates

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Re this work, who added all these harvard templates and it looks like many are what's already in the citations? If you're going to use a template at all, is it such a bother to make a reference out of it instead of leaving it in raw text? I'm also seeing, in many cases, the ref is already there for the same thing the harvard template is there for, althoug hthe latter is not inside a ref or citeweb template like the parallel ones are. What gives? I've never seen any article like this, with "lazy" references like this in such numbers. I'm bored and just wondering about reverting the whole thing bacvk to before all the harvard-clutter was added...unless somebody else wants to continue the cleanup and/or check all the refs and see which are parallel and which are not.Skookum1 (talk) 02:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Beaver Lake Cree Nation *OR* Beaver Lake First Nation - which is "MOSTCOMMON"?

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I note that in a lot of new material the acronym BLFN is used not as would be expected BLCN......on that basis, this kind of behooves an RM for MOSTCOMMON, no?Skookum1 (talk) 02:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi User/Diannaa,

I admire the work you contribute and your very useful user page. I have learned a lot from you.

I am trying to solve this problem on my recent edit of Beaver Lake Cree Nation, although I have the issue with other article edits too.

I became aware of a recurring error of mine and I am trying to gradually undo the template errors thanks to one of your corrections. Even with the changes, however, the wikilink to citation does not work.

I referred to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Harvard_citation

I have used the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anning article as a model.

I have followed these steps:

1. ==Notes== {{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}

2. == References == {{refbegin|2}} and {{refend}}

3. Manually adding each *{{citation|author2=David T. McNab|author1=Olive Dickason|title=A History of Founding Peoples from Earliest Times|publisher=Oxford University Press|date=1992|url=http://www.oupcanada.com/catalog/9780195428926.html}} putting them in alphabetical order

4. entered the inline ref <ref>{{Harvnb|Dickason|McNab|1992}}</ref>

Thank you. If you are unable to help, could you redirect me to an editor who can? I prefer working with editors like yourself, who encourage and share information, rather than belittling and insulting ones. I have a lot of work to do to undo my erroneous templates and I want to get them right. oceanflynn 19:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi there Oceanflynn. I have done some corrections to the system as examples. The Author names have to be in the format | first= | last = for the system to pick it up. If there's multiple authors, all have to be listed. If the author name or publication date is unknown, you have to specify exactly how you are listing the citation using the {{sfnRef}} template. I have done some fixes as examples. My preference is to use the {{sfn}} template over the {harvnb}, because it automatically collates identical citations, and the <ref> tags are not needed. There's a fact sheet at User:Diannaa/Citation templates to help you get started. I will now convert a couple citations to {sfn} so that you can see the difference. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now you can see how the harvnb and the sfn templates compare. Please let me know if you want to go with the sfn template as I have done lots of this stuff and can help you get it converted quite quickly. I will fix some more harv errors now -- Diannaa (talk) 20:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much Diannaa for such a speedy and helpful response. I just dropped by to check on updates and I am so relieved that this is doable. I will use the sfn as you recommended and will very much appreciate your help. When I fix my errors on this page I will work backwards on other articles where I have made similar mistakes.

One editor suggested using a simpler template as has been the case with other articles about First Nations, but I really feel footnoting the exact author, page number, date is important, particularly when some data may be challenged. I think Notes and References sections using sfn are much tidier to follow than having all endnotes, footnotes and references in one section. I noticed that featured articles use sfn as well. oceanflynn 23:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, many of them do, but some folks do not favour them. Good luck in your endeavours, and please let me know if you have any questions. -- Diannaa (talk) 02:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted two paragraphs about oil extraction

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Took out two large, detailed paragraphs about oil extraction in Primrose. Neither paragraph mentioned the BLCN, and both went far off topic with extraneous details about oil companies' investments overseas, extraction methods, etc.--Smilo Don (talk) 20:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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