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Objection to the decision to remove the criticism page for this company[edit]

Bell Canada had a separate page delegated to discussing controversy surrounding this highly controversial company:

Criticism_of_Bell_Canada

This page was most inappropriately deleted. The primary grounds for removal is that Wikipedia promotes neutral discussion and a page oriented around criticizing an organization or establishment is warranted to be biased. However, existing precedent on Wikipedia suggests that this justification for the removal of the Criticism of Bell Canada page is unjust.

Deleting a large criticism page and then failing to properly cite those genuine criticisms in the original article is more biased than deleting the criticism article on grounds of biased content itself.

Many Organizations have criticism pages

The justification for this criticism page to be removed on grounds that pages specifically delegated to criticism are not permitted has no basis. Each of these groups has a respective criticism page:

Criticism_of_Google Criticism_of_Microsoft Criticism_of_Walmart

Bell Canada is an immense organization and is within the same playing field as these companies (with revenue of 40%, making Bell Canada one of the largest corporations in Canada as well as in the world). The decision to remove the Criticism of Bell Canada page is thus unprecedented.

The Current Bell Canada wiki entry is BIASED. The Criticism page was sloppily removed, rendering the original Bell_Canada page with absolutely no content in the criticism section at all

The user who removed the criticism article did so in a completely unethical and unorganized manner, resulting in causing the actual article for Bell_Canada to present a bias, which is what they were allegedly attempting to avoid doing in the first place by removing the page. Paralleled to the likes of Google, Microsoft and Walmart, Bell Canada has undergone many controversial behaviours particularly within the past decade. Such behaviours include:

Conclusion

It doesn't take an experienced Wikipedia contributor to figure out that some of the things Bell has done in the past have been largely controversial. There are two binding factors which caused this page to be deleted. 1) Criticism pages are not neutral. Yet it is perfectly acceptable for those 3 large American companies to have criticism pages. 2) the content in itself as presented on the page was opinionated. If you feel this is the case then perhaps you should forward this objection onwards to a Canadian moderator who is able to validate the fact that the criticisms I stated above were widespread and controversial amongst the Canadian people. 3) Even if it is determined that the page shall remain deleted, the moderator who deleted it did a very sloppy job, and created a bias because now it appears that there are no criticisms of Bell Canada.

If Wikipedia is to be neutral then it cannot fail to recognize the Canadian peoples' problems with this company. The removal of this page sparked quite a lot of discussion and anger here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/1rzx3o/bell_criticism_page_deleted_from_wikipedia/

Sloppy sloppy work here. I, along with many fellow Canadians, are completely disgusted that in one swift manoeuvre a moderator transformed a large controversial corporation into an establishment that smells like roses. Even if you only believe 1/7 of the controversial behaviour I cited above is genuine then Wikipedia has still served an act of injustice towards its users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macmee (talkcontribs) 19:08, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Amen! --True Tech Talk Time (talk) 20:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Side note: For the sake of disclosure, i started volunteering at TV Rogers this summer. Naturally, this is long after Criticism of Bell Canada was deleted, let alone created. i would equally support a Criticism of Rogers Communications article, though i am somewhat limited to speak on that. Another suggestion would be a Criticism of Canadian telecoms or the like. Despite my involvement with Rogers, i do not let this conflict my edits on Wikipedia. --True Tech Talk Time (talk) 01:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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External links modified[edit]

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