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This article was nominated for deletion on 18 December 2019. The result of the discussion was keep.

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This list was kind of a mess.

I am removing listings which are unsourced as to whether they actually contain criticism of Christianity and are by non-notable authors. I am leaving in works by authors with articles if I can tell, looking at the article, that the work probably qualifies - although ideally we would want to source each one with a review that mentions its criticism of Christianity.Brianyoumans (talk) 01:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This looks alright, thanks. I'm glad you were cautious in these removals. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, this is the kind of article that I think should just be deleted - some random person threw up a start on it years ago, it's had a few random additions over the years, but no one is really maintaining it, it doesn't have a clear description or focus, it isn't in any way comprehensive or well-researched. But if I tried to take it to AFD people would say it was a great start, there would be a few token references and additions added, the AFD would fail, and then the article would sit here and molder for another decade, useful only for someone to point to and say, "Look, Wikipedia is full of pointless listcruft like this!" Grump. Well, I think I improved it a bit. Rant off.Brianyoumans (talk) 14:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I actually had not noticed before I wrote the comment above - someone already AFDed it in 2019 and that's exactly what happened!Brianyoumans (talk) 14:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The AfD should give sufficient reasons why it was kept and for what purposes. Long story short: it passes WP:LISTN. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:14, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More specifically, WP:CSC has been invoked, and generally enforced. I've done the same at Bibliography of books critical of Islam. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reading through the deletion discussion (what there was of it, it wasn't extensive), there was considerable diversity of opinion as to what the article should look like - only notable books, only notable books and/or notable authors, anything as long as it criticizes Christianity... And what exactly *is* "criticism of Christianity"? Philosophical criticism? Cultural? (Much of what I removed seemed to be Indian works complaining about Christian conversions of Hindus, as far as I can tell.) Negative criticism or constructive criticism? I don't know, it seems vague to me. But I'll leave it alone. If you have experience with similar articles maybe you could improve this one. Brianyoumans (talk) 20:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]