Talk:Big Jake

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Off-topic observations[edit]

This was a typical John Wayne--always the tough good guy in the white hat; but his first anachronism. One of the first to show any of his sons, too. Also, one of the few where he seems surprised (Gun clicks on an empty--big eyes. He also admits being scared--a first for him.) This show of softness is very refreshing.

Wayne's character scoffs modern "improvements"; but bends a little at the "prodigious" accuracy of Chris Mitchum's rifle; and grudgingly accepts the superior firepower of the automatic Bergmann--it Did save his life.70.176.79.198 (talk) 16:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't seen any anachronisms. Do you mean it's a different time period than his other westerns? If so, that argument has no merit -- he made movies from several eras. 98.101.227.58 (talk) 19:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, a different period is not an anachronism. It is an aging cowpoke in the 20th century--like most of Peckinpah's films. I talk here of breaks in continuity: things appear that were not in that time period, by decades. Like, the two-cylinder (parallel cylinder) two-stroke motorcycle that did amazing stunts; when a 1909 motorcycle was usually one cylinder with the performance of a moped. Plus, with a total loss oil system, short range.

In most Westerns, John Wayne is seen with two 20th century Colts and a 1892 Winchester in the 1870's, '80's, or even 1862!65.129.176.4 (talk) 15:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The gore was odd for a Wayne movie--he'd just been interviewed by Playboy, despising the blood in "The Wild Bunch". I guess it is because the writers, Julius Fink and his brother,were the same that did "Dirty Harry" later.

Chris Mitchum's motorcycle does amazing things for a 1909 'cycle--jumping cliffs and things. It is obviously a Suzuki two cylinder two stroke 400cc with added wide pin-striped fenders and tanks; and acetylene headlamp. Rifle scabbards cover the hydraulic suspension. These jumps are thrilling, but I wish the editors had dubbed in the rumble of an old Harley rather than the ring-ding-ding of a Jap enduro machine,

His rifle looks oddly like a modern Remington Model 70 (so does one of Fain's men's); although a 1903 Springfield or two are also seen. His Bergmann pistol I still haven't found. They apparently didn't make very much.68.231.185.24 (talk) 21:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just one correction to your comments. This was not the first movie in which John Wayne admitted to being scared. Did you ever see "The Sands of Iwo Jima"? When they were getting ready to hit the beach, one of the soldiers told John Wayne he was scared. Wayne replied, "So am I." The soldier expressed surprise, and Wayne said, "Fowler, I'm always scared!" Remember also "The Flying Leathernecks." He told a young pilot that everyone gets scared going into combat. He said, "If you ever meet anyone that doesn't, avoid him. He's an idiot!"97.73.64.165 (talk) 11:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't say it was the First---only the rare few where he truly acts like he's bitten a bit too much off. Who Wouldn't be scared at Iwo Jima (from what I heard?)? Or, Bataan? These were based on history; so, only a realistic character would do, not a stereotyped tough guy like a Dirty Harry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tintinteslacoil (talk • contribs) 05:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

None of these personal impressions appear to have anything to do with improving this article. Please see WP:TALK for what article talk pages are used for, and WP:NOT#FORUM for some of what they're not. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 14:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they do. I enjoy movie accuracy--Leone is a stickler for this. You note, audiences demand accuracy now. Silverado, the new True Grit, Tombstone; all modern Westerns are on location and show period costumes and armament. And, heroes appear more human, like in history, not just a chunk of stone.

This is a Talk, not an Edit, section. No comments here have made it into the main text. There needs be a section just to bounce off of.65.129.176.4 (talk) 15:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum T|C 04:48, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Big Jake (film) → Big Jake – Clearly the primary topic, and redirects here anyway. There appears to be only one thing to disambiguate, Big Jake (character), already handled with a hatnote. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 14:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per nom. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 13:54, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Premiere Interviews[edit]

https://archive.org/details/castaoca_00005

I found this reel of premiere interviews on Archive.org. As someone named after the film, I found these interviews to add an extra level of life to this old film -- it would be great if there was some way to get them in the article.

TheDaJakester^Talk 04:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added them to External Links. Should work there? 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:7D2F:72FA:33ED:99DF (talk) 09:31, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DOG![edit]

As it is written, I expected Dog to live and Goodfellow to die! I just finished viewing the movie and Dog was shot and wounded first, but survived until he was hacked to death by the machete! How can that section be corrected without messing up the whole article? LeoStarDragon1 (talk) 02:47, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]