Talk:Bill Tuttle

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I'm going to get a picture of a Bill Tuttle baseball card, once I figure out how to do it. Also, a picture of Tuttle after he was disfigured from his oral cancer would be appropriate, in my opinion. I don't believe that it would be gratuitous. Anyone think otherwise? The reason for the photos would be to help give the article a greater imformational, as well as educational impact. Does anyone here know how to do this? I'm new to this stuff. Slater79 00:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Tuttles tobbaco usage[edit]

From what I noticed, he chewed tobbaco on one side of his cheek, but the disfigurment is on the other side. How do we know his problem was from chewing tobbaco? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 02:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

Where did you see this? On his baseball cards? Maybe the images on the baseball cards or on the pictures that you saw him on were accidentally reversed. Slater79 00:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • It's all being plagiarized from here: [1] transaspie 02:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

He always chewed on the left but the original cancer was on the right. The doctor explained to him that the saliva swishes the tobacco all around his mouth and could affect any part of it. I corrected his town of birth from Cramer to Farmington, Illinois. No such town as Cramer exists in IL. All other sources say Farmington, which is indeed, 18 miles west of Peoria, as stated. >

6 Nov 2008, 14:32 There is a town called Cramer, but you will not find it in the atlas (you can Google Map it and find it!). It is an old farm town with few remaining houses. It is located about three miles southeast from Farmington, IL. Bill Tuttle was my grandfather's first cousin. He was born in Cramer according to family records and my great-grandmother. L. Tuttle

> —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

As tobacco-chewing was so rampant in this era, let's be grateful that the baseball cards did not state "Bats: Left, Throws: Right, Chews: Both." WHPratt (talk) 12:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

A Striking Statistic[edit]

Some baseball reserachers found that the Minnesota Twins had some ridiculously high winning percentage -- something like .900+ with only one or two losses all season -- in games wherein Tuttle played in 1962. The fact is that he was valued almost exclusively for his glove, and was inserted into centerfield only in the late innings of games that the Twins had practically won already. Other players were used in this manner, so the record must be some combination of conservative use and good luck as well as excellent fielding. I'll try to find the numbers. WHPratt (talk) 13:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Here is is, from Retrosheet's newsgroup and Yahoo site. I don't know if it's been published anywhere, but it shgould be provable from the information which is readily available. Not quite as I remembered it above, but maybe even more impressive in its own way. WHPratt (talk) 10:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

"Sorry for coming late to the party here, but in 1962, Mickey Mantle's team had a 74-49 record in the games he appeared in. This was better than the 22-17 mark they had in the games he missed, but it was hardly phenomenal. And I would be very surprised if any of the MVP voters that year were even aware of this.
"For my money, the 1962 AL MVP award clearly belonged to Bill Tuttle. Talk about phenomenal - his Twins went 90-19 in games he appeared in. All Tuttle had to do was walk between the white lines to almost guarantee victory. Sam Mele, his manager that year, somehow kept him out of 53 games, despite that fact that the team went an almost unbelievable 1-52 in the Tuttle-less games. Some people just have intangible in spades, I suppose, because while his batting average and OPS were only .211 and .602, he clearly knew what it took to put up the old Ws.
"Another obvious winner was 1982's Bobby Clark. Sure, he was a player whose .211 batting average actually overstated his offensive skills (no walks and only 3 extra bases that year caused his OPS to end up on the wrong side of .500) but the Angels that year went 85-17 with his name on the scorecard and only 8-52 without.
" -- Tom Ruane"
[Mr. Ruane knows this stuff well, and is, of course, using sarcasm here with regard to cause and effect, so please don't feel the need to debunk. WHPratt (talk) 12:24, 27 April 2011 (UTC) ]


Mildly interesting: I recall that Tuttle was one of only two ballplayers to wear uniform number 13 throughout the mid-1950s to mid-1960s. I think that Steve Barber was the other. WHPratt (talk) 16:14, 3 October 2013 (UTC)