Talk:Bullshit Jobs

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I find it unsatisfying that the entire "Reception" section is based on ONE review from an Establishment newspaper. This certainly gives undue weight to that reviewer's opinions. Qu1j0t3 (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to build it out. I probably won't get to it for a bit. czar 16:17, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I removed from "Reception" the sentence "A review in Philosophy Now found that Bullshit Jobs combines the worst elements of the industrial and the pre-industrial periods." because it isn't Bullshit Jobs that combines the worst elements of the industrial and the pre-industrial periods, and I can't find any similar opinion in the cited article, so I am not sure what was intended.CTourneur (talk) 20:07, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

French sources

Dumping a bunch here while they're current, in case someone wants to review in the future.

• https://twitter.com/StudioHansLucas/status/1039792645227393024
• https://www.wedemain.fr/David-Graeber-Le-capitalisme-multiplie-les-metiers-a-la-con_a3568.html
• https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/grand-bien-vous-fasse/grand-bien-vous-fasse-12-septembre-2018
• https://www.francetvinfo.fr/replay-radio/l-interview-eco/les-bullshit-jobs-rendent-les-gens-malheureux-pour-lanthropologue-david-graeber_2912267.html
• https://www.franceculture.fr/emissions/la-grande-table-2eme-partie/les-jobs-a-la-con-sont-partout-et-cest-a-ca-quon-les-reconnait
• http://www.nova.fr/37-40-des-gens-sentent-que-leur-metier-na-pas-besoin-dexister
• https://www.20minutes.fr/economie/2336703-20180914-bullshit-jobs-revenu-universel-gens-accepteront-plus-metier-aucun-sens-estime-david-graeber
• https://www.nouveau-magazine-litteraire.com/idees/il-y-a-des-jobs-ou-l-essentiel-du-boulot-est-de-pretendre-travailler

czar 22:11, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Further reading

Moving these sources to the talk page since apparently other editors find it displeasing.

• Kiesling, Lydia (August 16, 2018). "The Role of Women in the 'Bulls–t Workforce'". Slate Magazine. Retrieved September 29, 2018.
• Abrahamian, Atossa Araxia (August 29, 2018). "Money for Nothing". The New Republic. ISSN 0028-6583.
• Anthony, Andrew (May 27, 2018). "Bullshit Jobs: A Theory review – laboured rant about the world of work". The Observer. ISSN 0029-7712.
• B., N. (June 29, 2018). "Bullshit Jobs and the Yoke of Managerial Feudalism". The Economist. ISSN 0013-0613. Archived from the original on June 30, 2018. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• Baker, Peter C. (April 23, 2018). "The Bureaucratized Pointlessness of Bullshit Jobs". Pacific Standard. Retrieved May 5, 2018.
• Bartleby (May 31, 2018). "Are you stuck in a 'bullshit job'?". The Economist. ISSN 0013-0613.
• Bartleby (June 1, 2018). "Do we pay nurses less because we envy them? Unlikely". The Economist. ISSN 0013-0613.
• Been, Eric Allen (June 5, 2018). "Your Job Doesn't Matter". Vice. Retrieved June 9, 2018.
• Bloodworth, James (June 2018). "Terrible Work If You Can Get It". Literary Review. Retrieved June 9, 2018.
• Deahl, Rachel (October 14, 2015). "Frankfurt Book Fair 2015: No Big Book Yet, But Plenty of Big Sales". Publishers Weekly. Retrieved June 29, 2017.
• Dennin, James (May 18, 2018). "Do you have a bullshit job? Anthropologist David Graeber explains the rise of pointless work". Mic.com. Retrieved May 19, 2018.
• Doctorow, Cory (May 5, 2018). "An excerpt from 'Bullshit Jobs,' David Graeber's forthcoming book about the rise of useless work". Boing Boing. Retrieved May 5, 2018.
• Earle, Samuel (June 19, 2018). "Bullshit Jobs: Robots Are Replacing Human Workers, so Why Are Americans Still Working so Hard?". Newsweek. Retrieved July 4, 2018.
• Eaton, George (May 23, 2018). "US anarchist David Graeber's crusade against the rise of 'bullshit jobs'". New Statesman. Retrieved May 26, 2018.
• Foley, John (May 11, 2018). "Review: Get used to your bullsh*t job". Reuters Breakingviews.
• Gier, Tim de (May 31, 2018). "'Zowel links als rechts denkt: hoe meer banen hoe beter'". NRC. Retrieved June 9, 2018.
• Gleason, Paul W. (July 20, 2018). "Are you stuck in a pointless job? You are not alone". Washington Post. Retrieved August 11, 2018.
• Goldhill, Olivia (June 30, 2018). "One of history's greatest philosophers thought work makes you a worse person". Quartz. Retrieved June 30, 2018.
• Heritage, Stuart (May 1, 2018). "The bulls**t job phenomenon — are you in one?". The Times. ISSN 0140-0460.
• Illing, Sean (May 8, 2018). "Bullshit jobs: why they exist and why you might have one". Vox. Retrieved May 12, 2018.
• Kashtan, Miki (January 22, 2019). "Meaningful Work, Human Nature, and a Free Society". Tikkun. Retrieved January 26, 2019.
• Keane, Erin (May 19, 2018). "Here's the one book every millennial and Gen Z new graduate should read (and it's not Dr. Seuss)". Salon. Retrieved May 20, 2018.
• Koenig, Rebecca (June 4, 2018). "Suspect Your Job Is Pointless? You May Be Right". US News & World Report. Retrieved June 9, 2018.
• Martindale, Dayton (May 10, 2018). "Is Your Job Bullshit? David Graeber on Capitalism's Endless Busywork". In These Times. Retrieved May 12, 2018.
• McGregor, Jena (June 14, 2018). "If you think your job is pointless, it probably is". Washington Post. Retrieved July 4, 2018.
• Moran, Joe (July 25, 2018). "The Curse of Work". The Times Literary Supplement.
• Nunis, Vivienne (May 23, 2018). "Why most of our jobs are meaningless". Marketplace. Retrieved May 26, 2018.
• O' Malley, JP (June 6, 2018). "Review: David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs brilliantly unpacks the modern corporate economy". The Globe and Mail.
• Purves, Miranda (May 15, 2018). "You're Not Just Imagining It. Your Job Is Absolute BS". Bloomberg.com.
• Romeo, Nick (May 19, 2018). "Nearly Half of You Reading This Have Bullshit Jobs". The Daily Beast.
• Schneider, John (May 31, 2018). "Is Your Job a Bunch of B.S.?". Los Angeles Review of Books. Retrieved June 1, 2018.
• Semuels, Alana (June 27, 2018). "Are More and More People Working Meaningless Jobs?". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331.
• Upchurch, Tom (May 25, 2018). "Forget fears of automation, your job is probably bullshit anyway". Wired UK. Retrieved May 26, 2018.
• Washtell, Francesca (June 25, 2018). "Bullshit Jobs review: David Graeber touches a nerve in this cathartic study". Retrieved June 28, 2018.
• Washtell, Francesca (June 25, 2018). "David Graeber Q&A: What 'bullshit jobs' are and how we got here". Retrieved June 28, 2018.
• Weissman, Suzi (June 30, 2018). "The Rise of Bullshit Jobs". Jacobin. Retrieved June 30, 2018.

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Here are some sources that might be interesting to read but appear to cover ground already better covered by sources currently in the article:

• "BS Jobs: How Meaningless Work Wears Us Down". NPR. September 3, 2018. Retrieved September 15, 2018.

czar 00:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

• Smith, Jason E. (July 11, 2018). "Jobs, Bullshit, and the Bureaucratization of the World". The Brooklyn Rail. Retrieved April 6, 2020.

czar 01:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

German sources

• https://www.otz.de/startseite/detail/-/specific/Sozialwissenschaftler-und-Aktivist-David-Graeber-ueber-Bullshit-Jobs-318780079
• Kaufmann, Stephan (November 17, 2018). "Arbeit: „Jobs, die die Welt nicht braucht'". Frankfurter Rundschau (in German). Retrieved November 17, 2018.

czar 11:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Academic sounding attack

"A 2021 study empirically tested Graeber's claims, finding a low and declining proportion of employees who consider their jobs useless." The problem with a loaded articulation like this is the amount of time and effort it takes to refute it. There are a number of problems with this "study". However it may better to keep this line in the reception section since Graeber's work typically attracts inoperative detractions.

I expanded on what the study found and didn't find, which hopefully made the argument more nuanced that just a one-sentence attack. --LatakiaHill (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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