Talk:Burial Ground (album)

Requested move 09 December 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is against moving. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Burial Ground (Grave album) → Burial Ground – Revert recent undiscussed move. – Dohn joe (talk) 18:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:48, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dohn joe: Oppose: A Burial Ground is a burial ground is a cemetery. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:48, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there is a dab at Burial Ground and other topics such as Burial Ground (film). What is your evidence that a Swedish death metal album stub which didn't chart is the absolute majority encyclopaedic topic for "Burial Ground"? over everything else?? In ictu oculi (talk) 23:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And please restore dab page Dohn joe (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (197 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Dohn joe moved page Burial Ground to Burial Ground (disambiguation) over redirect: prep to redirect base name to primary topic) (undo | thank) In ictu oculi (talk) 01:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per AA and IIO; it should be a disambiguation page; an almost completely unreferenced article with no mention of notability fails primacy. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the above arguments. Egsan Bacon (talk) 05:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Procedurally, this should already have been done, as a revert of In ictu's recent undiscussed move:

(cur | prev) 13:09, 1 December 2015‎ In ictu oculi (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (2,065 bytes) (0)‎ . . (In ictu oculi moved page Burial Ground (album) to Burial Ground (Grave album): no evidence more notable than Stick Figure album) (undo | thank)

Substantively, we have WP:NCCAPS, which says, in bold, "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper name." So we ignore cemeteries for this purpose. Looking at only things called "Burial Ground", there are two WP articles: this album, and the Italian film. Neither one is awesome, but there's no evidence that the film is more notable than the album. The onus should be on the person wanting to make the move. Dohn joe (talk) 14:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dohn joe, have you not read WP:MOVE? Editors disambiguate non notable topics all the time. This is an unsourced non-charting Swedish metal album with a highly generic name. What evidence do you wish to present that there is an absolute majority topic of any kind? Why is this non-charting unsourced Swedish metal album more notable than http://www.amazon.com/Burial-Ground-Stick-Figure/dp/B0089A572E + the book + the film combined? In ictu oculi (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's more WP:NOTABLE than the other album, ispo facto because that album has no article. As for the film, why don't you show some evidence, considering it was you who made the move in the first place? Dohn joe (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. No evidence this is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over Burial Ground (film). Zarcadia (talk) 17:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. If the article itself is making no claim of notability, then why are editors even bothering to discuss "primarytopic?" --Richhoncho (talk) 09:18, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The proposal is to turn this article into the primary topic, so thus the discussion. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I've wondered many a time why albums inherit notability instead of having it established within the article that they are in fact notable. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.