Talk:Buttevant Rail Disaster

CIE not IE

As a minor point, the train was a CIE train, not an IE train, as IE did not exist until 1987. Ewanduffy 14:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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I'm moving here this contribution on 22:03, 14 September 2008 from User:Lordhighinquisitor:

I was a survivor of the Buttevant railroad disaster of August 1, 1980. Reading above, you will see a statement that the manually operated points at Buttevant station had not been connected to the switch house where they could have been changed almost instantaneously. CIE have published a report on the so-called accident. Read it carefully. You will read the points had been connected, but had been disconnected, leaving them is such a state that they required four or five minutes, and a man with a pry bar and a wrench to set straight. CIE had an unconvincing argument for the accident version of the event. They never gave sufficient reason for keeping manually operated points on a main line, and they admitted they had no sufficient reason for disconnecting the points from a switch house.

I will tell you this much again, and I have made this argument since very soon after the derailment. It is nothing new and it is not intended to mislead or libel. The fact is that after six months of precisely worded terrorist threats in Germany which named (Eireann) phonetically at least fifty times very clearly and unmistabably, I was able to tell my roommate ( Jimmy Rowe) in the army that if I went to Ireland on leave they would derail my train. I told when, where, and how the derailment would occur. The threats included wording about derailment and crossing over some points. There is much more to this than stated here. I went on leave to Ireland. My train was derailed killing 18 and injuring some 65. The following morning of August 2, 1980 a powerful bomb ripped through the main train station of Bologna, Italy killing 86 and injuring over 200. There may have been a warning to me about that too. The threats about the derailment were much more detailed than mentioned here. The threats were made by Sergeant John P. Vogel and Spec 4 Stavrinakis of the US Army Germany. Both claimed they had connections with organized terrorist units in Europe. This and a lot more are all true accounts.

79.97.251.2 (talk) 23:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

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I suspect that much of the article has been written by someone for whom English is a second language. It was in places difficult to understand what was meant. Can someone with a knowledge of the accident, and who can write correct English, please edit it.203.80.61.102 (talk) 03:43, 8 November 2017 (UTC)