Talk:Capriccio (Rex Whistler)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Visual arts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of visual arts on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Visual artsWikipedia:WikiProject Visual artsTemplate:WikiProject Visual artsvisual arts articles

Wales Low‑importance

	Wales portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wales, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WalesWikipedia:WikiProject WalesTemplate:WikiProject WalesWales articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

A few things

Williamsdoritios, Johnbod - Hi, and thanks for the article. A nice link for Curzon Street Baroque. A couple of questions:

Should the article name be italicised? I think most works of art are.
Can it properly be called a mural if it's actually a painting on canvas that has been fixed to the wall. Is this Marouflage?

Not my area of expertise, so I've copied in a man who'll know. KJP1 (talk) 14:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Johnbod, KJP1, and Marouflage if you feel that "Capriccio" is a wall painting rather than a mural and have evidence and see fit to move the page please do, but isn't a mural an overly large wall painting thinking of Michelangelo; perhaps not. Its all good. Thanks for the attention to detail.Williamsdoritios (talk) 14:28, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

P.s. I’ve often wondered - was Whistler inspired by Portmeirion? Two Italian coastal villages in North Wales?? KJP1 (talk) 14:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Owner of Plas Newydd the National Trust refers to it as a mural. [1]Williamsdoritios (talk) 14:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Capriccio should be italic, & yes, mural is fine. Johnbod (talk) 00:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we can call it a mural as it is intended to function as such, just like Pollock's Mural (1943) - but are we sure it is called "Capriccio"? The NT call it "Capriccio of a Mediterranean Seaport with British and Italian Buildings, the Mountains of Snowdonia, and a Self-portrait wielding a Broom" which is a bit descriptive and wordy: is that what Whistler called it? Is it really just a description, not a proper title at all?

The NT then add "(Plas Newydd Dining Room Mural)" so I suspect something like Rex Whistler Mural (perhaps that could be confused with the one at the Tate, although it has a proper title), or Plas Newydd Dining Room Mural might be a better title (or to satisfy the capital letter zealots, Plas Newydd dining room mural).

Self-portrait with broom sweeping petals, as the colonnade continues to the left
Study for left colonnade
How the panel appears in the room, including self-portrait in the colonnade to the left
Study for right colonnade

There is plenty more to mine from the existing sources and other sources that are readily available - eg. [2] [3] - and we should add the trompe-l'œil panels at either end - the continuing colonnades including one with a self-portrait (not just the watercolour studies [4]) and the grisaille "relief" panels next to them. Theramin (talk) 01:43, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]