Talk:Celeste Ng

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Connors, Joanna. "Writer Celeste Ng talks about growing up in Shaker Heights and her Buzz Novel of the summer, 'Everything I never told you"". Cleveland. The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 25 July 2015.
Ng, Celeste. "Celeste Ng-Writer". Facebook. Retrieved 28 July 2015.
Lee, Jarry. "20 Under 40 Debut Writers You Need To Be Reading". Buzzfeed. Retrieved 28 July 2015.</ref>
Schluep, Chris. "CelesteNgBEA". youtube. Retrieved 28 July 2015.
Eikenburg, Jocelyn. ""Write What Terrifies You": An Interview with Celeste Ng". Hipporeads. Retrieved 28 July 2015.

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Akatslove, there isn't a single article about lede writing that will tell you to include the author's biography in the article on a novel. In addition, such writing as "has received praise from critics. The novel has also won many awards" is really not very strong. Not very strong at all. But I've tried to show you, in my edits and in my edit summaries, how a good lede is to be written--it's up to you to disregard my advice. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, I took what you said into consideration, looked at the links you posted, and modified it multiple times. I will try to make the language stronger. Also, you seem to be mistaking what the article is about. This is not an article about a novel, it's an article about an author. Wouldn't it make sense to, correct me if I'm wrong ,include a little biography in the lead? Despite the confusion thank you for your input as it was generally helpful. Akatslove (talk) 08:12, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, sure, this is about the author, not the novel (got confused I suppose because in your class students are tackling authors/filmmakers and their work, and I looked at a lot of them yesterday)--that doesn't change the core of what I was trying to tell you, though. Biography needs to be minimal--something like someone's educational career does not help the reader with anything. A Pushcart is relevant, a graduate award is not. That she's been published in many journals is not (it's par for the course). Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

'Chinese'?

One of the categories on this page is "American women writers of Chinese descent". But on the page, there is no mention of Chinese descent. There should at least be a mention with a reliable source, before this category can be added, right? Laurier (xe or they) (talk) 15:27, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says her parents are from Hong Kong, you don't think that's sufficient? Schazjmd (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reaction. Actually, no, I don't think "Her parents moved from Hong Kong in the late 1960s" is sufficient to conclude they are/were Chinese. They could have been Brits or French or... who lived there before they moved. Do you think it's sufficient? Laurier (xe or they) (talk) 09:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Laurier, that's a good point. Sources generally just mention "Asian-American" in reference to Ng.[1][2] I did find a Time article, that says She hesitated to write about a family that, on its surface, looks like hers—a Chinese American mother, a white father, and their biracial son—because readers tend to assume other details are also true to life, but I would hesitate to use that to say in the article that her mother was Chinese and her father wasn't. Personally, I think the "descent" categories are overapplied anyway. Schazjmd (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we can find a good source, although, by now, there is a risk of circular referencing, where publications have used Wikipedia as a source. We could also delete the category for now. Laurier (xe or they) (talk) 05:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with deleting it until there's WP:CATV content. Schazjmd (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Done. Laurier (xe or they) (talk) 10:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]