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Ping User:Timtrent, the difficulty is that Chris Allen is a relatively common name, so it is difficult to find works specifically written by them at scholar.google.com -- and their faculty-homepage does not list their publications by title, that I could find. Best bet is to email the professor, ask for a copy of their CV/resume, and pump the piece-titles into scholar.google.com one by one, which is a bit of a pain but ought to give you a good idea of which are the most-cited-works. Of the five that you list in the draft right now, one has 22 cites, see hidden-html-comments that I added therein. I also found these other refs:
- Crime and local television news: Dramatic, breaking, and live from the scene. JH Lipschultz, ML Hilt - 2014 - books.google.com (quote: "CONTRIBUTORS... Chris W Allen (PhD, U. MO, '96) Asst Prof of Comm. U. NE-Omaha.") Cited by 45
- Impertinences: Selected Writings of Elia Peattie, a Journalist in the Gilded Age. CW Allen - Journalism History, 2005 - questia.com. Cited by 0
However, I was specifically searching for this WP:GOOG incantation:
("CW Allen" OR "chris allen" OR "chris w allen") (+"nebraska" OR +"omaha")
This was before I knew that Allen was previously at U.NorthDakota. Per his linkedIn page:[1]
- Associate Professor, University of Nebraska at Omaha
- Associate Professor, University of North Dakota, January 1996 – May 2003, School of Communication
- University of Missouri-Columbia, Ph.D., Journalism, 1992 – 1996
- Iowa State University, Master of Science (MS), Journalism and Mass Communication, 1984 – 1987
- News Reporter, KRNT Radio, 1979 – 1982
- Iowa State University, BA, Journalism and Mass Communication, 1974 – 1979
- Groups: International Professors Project, Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication
In any case, better to start with the list of publications, and check their cite-counts one by one. Also note that google-scholar is notoriously buggy about cite-counts. Take these with a few spoonfuls of NaCl for certain. That said, even with the WP:DBTF difficulty in finding the correct C.Allen in the search-hits, probably these low-double-digit-cite-counts are not enough. As part of fighting with the WP:GOOG, I happen to have a cite-count for recent publications[2] by U.Cincinnati's prof-emeritus Chris T. Allen, which even though they are in marketing-communications rather than journalism-communications, is partially indicative that trip-digit cite counts are a good rule of thumb for wiki-notability:
C.T.Allen: 224 cites for 2011 book, 107 cites for 2008 chapter, 604 cites for 1995 journal-paper, et cetera
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This is the first of their complete list of publications, hand-entered into scholar.google.com (which takes about five minutes once your muscle-memory has the keystrokes down pat), and is in a different field-of-inquiry, so it is definitely not an apple-to-apple comparison with C.W.Allen because I don't have their full-publications-listing and it is journalism not marketing. Although I think C.W.Allen is a pretty interesting fellow, with the travel to Kabul and Oman and such, my hunch is that this is probably a case of WP:NotJustYet, though I would reserve judgement until the full publication-list is available. Besides the academia sources, I would count KVNO as quasi-independent, in strictest stickler fashion; are there other newspaper/teevee/radio/similar refs, outside Omaha World-Herald? 75.108.94.227 (talk) 10:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- My friend, I am more than grateful. As I am sure you know, I will not object if you enter the most relevant of this information into the draft. I will also get back to handling it, but I have it on the back burner for now. I am so grateful that you have contributed to the information.
- We need to differentiate the gentleman CW Allen from C (any other initial) Allen. Fiddle Faddle 16:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
This did go through AfC, though the edit history doesn't show it[edit]
Technical error on my part. I did some editing on the draft and moved it into the article space without thinking about it -- I should have submitted it on Tim's behalf and accepted it as a reviewer. Still, it has been properly vetted and reviewed! JSFarman (talk) 15:09, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Edit request[edit]
Please will a kind editor add this article to relevant categories. I believe they should reflect the year of birth, the gentleman's "people from" status, and his occupation status. You may find other areas to look for. It could also do with {{DEFAULTSORT:Allen, Chris W}} being added. I realise that these are non contentious edits, but I wish to be scrupulous in avoiding COI. Fiddle Faddle 22:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Well, YOB has been done, thanks. But the others are still needed, please. Fiddle Faddle 10:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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