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Abductees versus Contactees

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It is generally accepted that Contactees were those who, under there own volition, claimed that they went aboard or were visited by aliens in the mid to late part of the 20th century. From reading the Wikipedia entry about Riley Martin, it sounds like he was an abductee, which is where he should be listed. Perhaps under the Notable Abductee section. Sean Donovan 00:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger

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I think the article List of contactees should be merged into this article. List of contactees is not a list at all, it mentions the names of some contacees, those few names will be goosd in the main article in a separate section, there is not need for a separate article for a few names. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More than three weeks have passed, and if no objection is raised, I will do the merge tomorrow. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edits by 70.171.87.6

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> Has a Bachelors in Advanced Avionics electronics and as a abduction researcher for over 25 years, Joe Montaldo is uniquely qualified he is also a contactee his self as well as researches contactees so not sure why you would not include him on the contactee list

Which is irrelevant because this article is about contactees. As I added your talk page, "Your May 9th edits to Contactee have been reverted because they are clearly self-promotion and do not follow the COI Guideline." Unless you can explain why your edits are not self-promotion, then please leave the article as it stands. Secondly, why do you insist on adding "Joe Montaldo" under the list of contactees? He is not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsdonovan (talk • contribs) 03:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Church of the Subgenius

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The Church of the SubGenius has a significant contactee motif in its mythology - to wit: "Bob" was contacted / made contact with the "X-ist" aliens, and sold the planet to them. The Church thus spreads the message: "The X-ists are coming back to enslave the planet. Join the Church to ensure that you are not among the enslaved." Perhaps this is worth adding to this page?

Popefelix (talk) 14:46, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up references

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I'm in the process of moving the references from academic style to Wiki style. After I did that, there was only one listed reference that had no corresponding entry in the text:

  • Christopher F. Roth, "Ufology as Anthropology: Race, Extraterrestrials, and the Occult." In E.T. Culture: Anthropology in Outerspaces, ed. by Debbora Battaglia. Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 2005.

I'm saving that entry here in case there's a reason to include it somewhere in the text. Serpyllum (talk) 02:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zigmund Adamski

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The inclusion of Zigmund Adamski in the list of contactees is highly suspect. Nowhere in the reference article does he ever claim to have been a contactee (or abductee). It merely states that he disappeared one day and was later found dead.

The article goes on to say:

"One of the most famous Ufologists of all time, also called Adamski, offered his own amazing theories on the tragedy. He believed aliens from outer space abducted the Yorkshire miner by mistake."

One can only assume that the "famous Ufologist" the article is referring to is George Adamski. The only problem is that George died in 1965, fifteen years before the event. It would've been rather difficult for him to have offered an opinion on anything unless the BBC somehow learned the ineffable art of necromancy. A painfully obvious tabloid angle and not a very clever one. 216.67.36.29 (talk) 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

la réparation de cette crise

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Woodrow Derenberger

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Woodrow Derenberger should be included in the list of contactees. He was contacted extensively and wrote a book about his experiences, Visitors From Lanulos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.125.214 (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"Persons who claim..."

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Presumably one is only a real contactee if one has been contacted by aliens. Merely claiming it doesn't make it true. (See also Talk:Psychic.) Equinox ◑ 15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited material in need of citations

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I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, WP:NOR, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, et al. This diff shows where it was in the article. Nightscream (talk) 18:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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History

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Early examples

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Though the word contactee was not in common use until the 1950s, the authors of the anthologies noted in "sources" below use the term to describe persons whose claims occurred centuries before the modern UFO era began in the late 1940s, attempting to depict them as a part of the same tradition.[citation needed]

Though not linked to flying saucers or odd aerial lights, there is a long history of claims of contact with non-earthly intelligences. The founding revelations of many of the world's religions involve contact between the founder and a supernatural source of wisdom, such as a deity in human form or an angel. In this context, one might expect that the 1950s contactees would form their own religions, with the contactee as sole spiritual leader, and that is precisely what many of them did.[citation needed]

Later, Helena Blavatsky would make claims similar to Swedenborg's.[citation needed]

1900s

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Two of the earliest contactees in the modern sense were William Magoon and Guy Ballard (the latter a follower of Madame Blavatsky).[citation needed]

Magoon's book William Magoon: Psychic and Healer was published in 1930. He claimed that, in the early 20th century, he had been unexpectedly and instantaneously transported to Mars. The planet was essentially earth-like, with cities and wilderness. The inhabitants had radio and automobiles. Though they were invisible, Magoon sensed their presences.[citation needed]

Though Magoon was obscure, Ballard would have more impact via the I Am movement he established. In 1935, Ballard claimed that, several years earlier, he and over 100 others witnessed the appearance of 12 Venusians in a cavern beneath Mount Shasta. The Venusians played music for the audience, said Ballard, then showed the crowd a large mirror-like device that displayed images of life on Venus. The Venusians then allegedly reported that the Earth would suffer through an era of tension and warfare, followed by worldwide peace and goodwill.[citation needed]

Another early contactee book, of sorts, was From India To The Planet Mars (1900) by Theodore Flournoy. Flournoy detailed the claims of Helene Smith, who, whilst in a trance, dictated information gleaned from her psychic visits to the planet Mars—including a Martian alphabet and language she could write and speak. Flournoy determined that Smith's claims were spurious, based on fantasy and imagination. Her "Martian" language was simply a garbled version of French.[citation needed]

Rather, he suggests that an existing tradition of extraterrestrial contact via seances and psychic means promptly incorporated the flying-saucer mythos when it arrived.[citation needed]

Contactees in the UFO era

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The 1947 report of Kenneth Arnold sparked widespread interest in flying saucers, and before long, many people were claiming to have been in contact with flying saucer inhabitants.[citation needed]

There was a nearly-continuous series of contactees, beginning with George Adamski in 1952. Radio host "Long John" Nebel interviewed many contactees on his program during this era. The stereotypical contactee account in these days involved not just conversations with friendly, humanoid spacemen, but also tours inside their flying saucers, and rides to large "Mother Ships" in Earth orbit, and even jaunts to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn.[citation needed]

Another 1950s contactee, Buck Nelson, held a similar convention in the Ozarks of Missouri up until 1965.[citation needed]

Perú

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