Talk:David Jeremiah

Cancer and Prayer

There is no evidence a positive attitude or prayer can cure anything. If you believe you can prove that prayer does make a change where science has failed you can win one million dollars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi#The_.241_million_challenge This uncited claim that defies science should be removed.

Well one person praying and getting cured thus proving the "power of prayer" isn't very good statistics is it? Anyway, anyone have any references to him saying how he was "cured by prayer"? — Dunc|☺ 09:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I can't believe the negativity here. At the end of the day he had cancer and is now thankfuly in remission. Whatever Mr Jeremiah attributes it to is his own business. We are all entitled to our own beliefs and thankfully, most places on this planet allow free speech (such as Wikipedia). If he believes that God granted him some additional time on this planet to do some good and try and improve the lives of other people, then to try and stop him celebrating this fact is narrow minded and fascist.

Well, regarding that, I think it can be proven at a personal level that prayer works. But that is no the point here. Also, I have seen a lot of those "prizes" on both sides (some atheists would pay you if you can probe something, and some Christians will pay you if you can probe something; furthermore, I remember there are also muslims who will pay you if you can probe or disprobe something regarding their religion). Those prizes don't mean anything, because they can always (specially the atheists) attach a lot of "conditions" so that you could not even probe that a physical stone exists! Anyway, the issue is not if that defies science or not, the issue is that it is that the claim sould be there, because it was just stating what David Jeremiah said, whether it defies science or not is another issue (and the article is not a forum to discuss on that). Nevertheless, it is obvious that a cite to the source where he made the claim should be included. Afanluc (talk) 18:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Reverting the linked sourcing to Amazon

Was this an appropriate thing to do? I should be thankful that I didn't finish that list as it took me some time to provide the evidence through outside links to Amazon to demonstrate proper sourcing of the materials offered. So, the question is, is it appropriate to add links to Amazon to lend credibility to the article and support the asserted bibliography, or is some other method preferred by Wikipedia? Bagginator 06:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:ISNOT a collection of links.

You don't "source" a book by linking it to amazon. You source that a book was a best seller, that he won an award, etc.

I reverted the partial Amazon.com links [1] because wikipedia does not offer business to book retailors. Imagine if every single book on wikipedia followed this suit; all books would be linked to one business. However, adding in the ISBN number, publisher, city, year, and page numbers would be good. Arbusto 07:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe this is accurate. Amazon works as a source in that it provides the ISBN number, the publisher, the city, the year, etc. Linking to Amazon as a source is not offering Amazon business just as linking to the New York Times wouldn't be offering the New York Times business. I'd like to get another opinion on this as we apparantly do not agree.Bagginator 07:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Just do a list like at Thomas Playford IV.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

So instead of linking directly to Amazon or another book retailer, take the information on the book like suggested by Arbusto, and add it to the article like a bibliography? Bagginator 08:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Arbusto 03:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Clean Up

Did some clean up of the Book references as suggested. Anymore cleanup on the article necessary?Bagginator 09:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I wonder if his claimed title of doctor should be included in the article. He was "granted" a doctorate from a College that does not offer a PHD and where his father was an administrator in the 1960s. (His literature variously refers to it as Cedarville College and Cedarville University.) He repeated refers to himself as Dr Jeremiah in his books yet when I enquired to his staff th they say his doctorate was granted not earned....meaning it is honorary. The only reference to holding a doctorate is from his own literature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharmfarm59538 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Stem Cell Assertions

Per Template:Fact and the template on the top of this talk page, I've removed the unsourced and contentious assertions about Dr. David Jeremiah using stem cells to treat his cancer. If anyone can provide a source, then the statement could be returned. Ricky47893 05:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The Handwriting on the Wall

In your book (The Handwriting on the wall) page 13, The Theme of the Book of Daniel, you state that "Darius was astonished by God's rule even over the King of the Forest,' and I saw Cyrus become a tool in His divine hands for rebuilding of the city of Jerusalem. Where is this located in the bible? And what is the total meaning?

76.190.194.254 (talk) 14:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Doctor of Divinity

We have a a WP:BLP issue with Jeremiah's degree. We cannot say it is honorary without a reference. Please add it back in when you find an appropriate reference. StAnselm (talk) 23:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The only reference cited for his Doctor of Divinity is from his own publication. His own staff member have told me that his Doctorate is a non acedemic honorary degree. Cedarville does not even have a Doctorate in Pastoral studies. Yet we cannot delete this or mention it in his biography. This is why Wikipedia is a joke sometimes. Pharmfarm 07:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharmfarm59538 (talk • contribs)

His own bio claims he "completed" studies at Grace. He "completed" studies in the sense he did all he was going to do...but he earned no degree. I think this was put in his bio as a "transition" to being "granted" a Doctorate at Cedarville. It makes it sound like he has an earned Doctor of Divinity. His own staff has told me that "granted" means not earned...honorary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.33.31.100 (talk) 08:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Jeremiah has an undergrad degree from Cedarville College (later changed to Cedarville University) and a Masters from Dallas Theological....that is it. The rest is B.S. No degree from Grace, No Doctorate Earned at Cedarville College, even though his old man was an admistrator there and there is a building on campus humbly named "The Jeremiah Center" Why do we blindly accept what his Bio says even if it is dishonest? His Doctorate is listed as granted on his bio, upon repeated questioning of his pastoral staff they finally told me via email that the degree was honorary, but then blocked me! The first communication I got when I emailed them about the nature of his degree was an offer to buy sermon tapes for about $50....hehe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharmfarm59538 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

All D.D. degrees—without exception—are honorary not earned. His biography uses the weasel word "granted" to make it appear he has an academic credential that he doesn't have. The earned doctoral degrees are: Ph.D, Th.D (theology), & D.Min (ministry). Senator2029 • talk 07:04, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

PHOTOGRAPH OF DR. JEREMIAH ON THE SEARCH PAGE RESULTS

is what I get when I copy the link to the pix on my search page results. That is not, repeat not, a pix of the pastor, preacher Dr. David Jeremiah.

There is a pix of the man I watch just about every Sunday morning here:

You may not have any control over the image attached to your article in the search results; I still thought you should know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5eNzzz (talk • contribs) 18:35, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

References

No ministry what so ever listed from 1967 to 1981?

He was senior pastor of Blackhawk hawk Baptist church Fort Wayne Indiana from 1969 to 1981.