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This article was nominated for merging with 2019 STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting on April 20, 2023. The result of the discussion was merge.

Biography of living person notable for 2 events

This article is a biography of a living person notable for 2 events, the STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting, and his conviction for murder as a result of that shooting. Much of the content of this article has been copied from the article about the shooting. However, as a biography of a convicted murderer, additional information is needed about the subject's earlier life. There is a Manual of Style for biographies that should be followed for living people. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 21:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was: merge. Jerome Frank Disciple (talk) 15:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think this page should be merged with the existing page on the shooting. I see that, above, the murder conviction is mentioned as a second basis for notability (in addition to the shooting), but, from my perspective, at least, that's quite derivative—if every person who committed a high-profile crime became notable by virtue of their conviction, we'd have a lot more pages on Wikipedia. I was recently involved in a discussion at Talk:Scott Peterson merging that page into Murder of Laci Peterson, and I think the same considerations apply here.

Policy basis for merge: WP:PERPETRATOR: "A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person."

There is, of course, an exception—Where there is such an existing article, it may be appropriate to create a sub-article, but only if this is necessitated by considerations of article size. As an example of a page that has been found to meet the exception, see James Holmes (mass murderer). But I think that exception, if anything, shows that the typical rule should apply to this case. Holmes's page is 105,720 bytes; the 2012 Aurora shooting page is 132,809 bytes. Comparatively, this page is 18,350 bytes, and the page on the 2019 shooting is 46,559 bytes. In other words, even if combined, the resulting page, by itself, would still not be as long as Holmes's page—and, while a rough guess, I'd venture that it won't even be half the size, given the considerable redundancy across the two pages.--Jerome Frank Disciple (talk) 13:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - I've always felt PERPETRATOR to be a significant guideline from a societal responsibility viewpoint and the nominator's arguments are compelling. 69.92.163.38 (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.