Talk:Dianthus plumarius

Flawed lead sentence

Aware this article is currently nominated for WP:DYK (a mistake in my opinion, as the quoted sources are not robust), I want to announce for discussion that I propose to delete all mention of pinking shears in the lead sentence and elsewhere. It is a worrying and flawed assertion in the lead that pinking shears are named after the flower, as this is nowhere supported by the citations in this article. Further down the page, the statement is made that "Whether the pinking shear shares a common origin, or is named after the flower, is uncertain". The citation to dictionary.com states: "c.1200, pungde "pierce, stab," later (early 14c.) "make holes in; spur a horse," of uncertain origin; perhaps from a Romanic stem that also yielded French piquer, Spanish picar (see pike (n.2)). Or perhaps from Old English pyngan and directly from Latin pungere "to prick, pierce" (see pungent ). Surviving mainly in pinking shears." I really think removing all mention of pinking shears in this article makes the greatest sense as its retention in a maybe/maybe not manner is speculation at best, and at worse, is plain wrong. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)