Talk:Dmytro Yarosh
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[edit]removed oleg tyagnibok picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.75.142 (talk) 09:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Questionable Sources
[edit]This article cites Russian state controlled sources (Russia Today, Life News, etc.), which have proven to be highly questionable. Is there any possibility to have an authoritative source for the statements, that are currently made by the Russian media? Whyapieinthesky (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, point well-taken. IMO RT actually provides a lot of good fact reporting in general, as biased as it is. But when it comes to this issue, including Putin's Crimea adventure, it turns into a shameless propaganda tool of the Kremlin. I would probably agree that until corroboration by a reliable source, it doesn't belong at all. For now, I've taken it out of WP's voice pending the production of a more reliable source. Paavo273 (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Notice of RfC at Right Sector
[edit]RfC at Right Sector: “Should the article say in the lead that the group (or that some of its subgroups’ members) are neofascist or neo-Nazi, without citing a minimum of 3 top-quality sources?” --Dervorguilla (talk) 05:49, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- No. Fascism has a very specific meaning. The term has been used since Stalin's time to tar opponents. R.S. does some nasty stuff but that does not make them fascism per se/Wikidgood (talk) 06:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Wikidgood Oh well, this is a new one on me! The term "fascist" is just a slur used by Russians to smear others? Wow that is some peak liberalism there! Edit: just saw your contribution history, a long series of edits to the Azov page over how it's incorrect to use the words "nazi" or "fascist". Yeah, your ideology is pretty clear here Apeholder (talk) 18:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- There’s a bit on the specific subject in Fascist (insult), Media portrayal of the Russo-Ukrainian War, and Disinformation in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Kuzio has an article on the history of the usage,[1] and if you have access, this book review has a concise paragraph on the similar Russian/Soviet slur nationalist, which comes from bourgeois nationalist.[2]
- This Eastern Europe article is a subject of contentious editing, and insulting language directed at other editors is not tolerated. I see you received a DS alert after this was posted. —Michael Z. 19:51, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Wikidgood Oh well, this is a new one on me! The term "fascist" is just a slur used by Russians to smear others? Wow that is some peak liberalism there! Edit: just saw your contribution history, a long series of edits to the Azov page over how it's incorrect to use the words "nazi" or "fascist". Yeah, your ideology is pretty clear here Apeholder (talk) 18:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Killed?
[edit]Some sources (preliminary Russian) stated that he was killed near Illovaysk on 2 Septemeber. See e.g. http://www.mk.ru/politics/2014/09/02/smi-poverili-tvitteru-yarosh-ubit-pod-ilovayskom.html or http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/formerussr/ukraine/02-09-2014/1224308-smi-0/ . I could not find a confirmation of this in Ukrainian or Western media. Unless a reliable source provided we should not report him as dead. Alex Bakharev (talk) 06:24, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
There were reports he was badly wounded in the neck. Migth be from battle with army of Novorussia, some also say he was removed by Kiev, went to problematic and treat to Kiev politicians. --94.140.88.117 (talk) 19:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- Unconfirmed Russian sources, such as RT alone. are not generally WP:RS on this topic. Wikidgood (talk) 06:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
WP:UNDUE
[edit]IMHO the quotes section in particular gives undue weight to his most outrageious remarks taken out of context and little is said of his more level headed talks. This looks like POV warring and it may be time for a template on the mainspace if there is not more balance in this article which cherry picks items to make him look a lot more wreckless than he seems at times to actually be. For instance he stated to an interviewer that he tolerated people who were ideologically opposed to Ukrainian national awaking if they did not take action to harm the cause of the nation. That is a bit more reasonable than this picture of "Interpol's Most Wanted" which this article suggests. Any thoughts?Wikidgood (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
How are these quotes not OR
[edit]Cherry picked to boot makes it a sly POV ploy, no? I await comments otherwise it seems time to hit the delete button, at least until there is some kind of secondary aggregation or at the very least context. Wikidgood (talk) 07:31, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
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Governmental Initiative of Yarosh
[edit]This should be put into a seperate article, because it was an organisation (too). If no one disagrees, maybe I will do it Martin Mair (talk) 10:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)