Talk:Duke of Fife

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Birthdate of Alexander Duff, 1st Duke of Fife: 1840 or 1849? Would a responsible and knowledgable Wikipedian vet this from a printed resource? Two dates are given on-line, and the date has been changed recently here by an anon. editor with a checkered track record. --Wetman 06:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

10 November 1849, from Cracroft's Peerage. Proteus (Talk) 10:05, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Lord Carnegie[edit]

When the dukedom passed to James Carnegie, am I right in assuming that the title 'Lord Carnegie' merged with the dukedom as a courtesy title? Morhange 03:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. The two Lordships of Carnegie of Kinnaird and Carnegie of Kinnaird and Leuchars merged along with the Earldom of Southesk and the Barony of Balinhard. Proteus (Talk) 09:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


Where have these arms come from? Since the first Earl of Fife, created 1759, until the 2nd sou jure Duchess if Fife (died 1959)The arms have consisted of:-

    Quarterly: 1st & 4th, Or, a Lion rampant Gules, armed and langued Azure (for Duff); 2nd & 3rd, Vert, a Fess dancettée Ermine, between, in chief, a Hart's Head cabossed Or, and in base, two Escallops Or (for Duff of Braco). - ref: Kearsley's Complete Peerage 1799, Burke's Peerage 1914.

The third and current Duke bears (according to Burke's):-

    Quarterly: 1st grand-quarter, Or, a Lion rampant Gules, armed and langued Azure (For Dukedom of Fife; 2nd grand-quarter, The Royal arms difference by a Label of five-points Argent, charged with two Thistles between three Crosses Gules (being the arms of HRH The Princess Royal, Duchess of Fife; 3rd Grand-quarter quarterly, 1st & 4th, Vert, a Fess dancettée Ermine, between, in chief, a Hart's Head cabossed Or, and in base, two Escallops Or (for Duff of Braco); 2nd & 3rd, Gules, three Skeins palewise Argent, hafted and pommelled Or, surmounted by three Wolves' Heads couped Or (for Skene of that Ilk); 4th grand-quarter, Gules, a Banner displayed Argent, charged with a Canton Azure, a Saltire Argent (for Bannerman of Elsick); over all, ensigned with an Earls Coronet proper, an Inescutcheon Argent, an Eagle displayed Azure, armed, beaked and membered Gules, on its breast an Antique Covered Cup (for Carnegie). 

SJH — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:36, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


OK, so before he was Duke, he was Earl of Fife in the Peerage of Ireland. Why Ireland ? Eregli bob (talk) 16:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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