Talk:Ecclesiastical letter

Bibliographical request :)

New Bibliography is much needed I think as all the sources mentioned in the article are from the late 19 to early 20 centuries. It is obviously caused by the source text itself which comes from the beginning of the 20th century, so if anybody can please update bibliographical info here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.9.207 (talk) 20:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Why are we forced to get most of our information about Roman Catholicism from a 100 year old source? As if it hasn't changed multiple times in the interim. --173.32.134.108 (talk) 23:43, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ad tuendam fidem

Could you explain what I am mistaken about the 1998 Apostolic letter? User:Jahaza User:Veverve

The source I pulled from comes straight from a law textbook that said the letter said the Pope's word was now unchangeable. And the source I cited to: "The Letter introduced into. and imposed on, the Church a new category of teaching, called "definitive," and explained it as not infallible but irreformable. Effectively, if not verbally, it transferred some freely debated doctrines from the field of the "doubtful things" to the field of the "necessary things," where no question must be raised any more about their unchangeable nature."

And: "An oft-quoted traditional rule expresses well the ideal balance be- tween stability and development in matters of belief: "in necessary things unity, in doubtful things liberty, in all things charity." The "necessary things" are what we need to believe because they belong to the very core of the Christian Tradition; we must be one in professing them.I2 In modern, mainly post Vatican I, times, such doctrines are often described as "articles of faith infallibly taught."" https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/569 Captchacatcher (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

The quote says, in short: in his letter Ad tuendam fidem, JP II proposed a new theological note which is the "definitive" level of theological note.

This fact is also noted alluded to at Theological notes#Edward N. Peters.

So your source says nothing on the authority of encyclicals. Veverve (talk) 13:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)