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Untitled[edit]

Which Hague Peace Conference? 1899 or 1907? -- Ortonmc 04:20, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Korea or Joseon?[edit]

Didn't Gojong conclude his monarchical career as the head of the "Korean Empire" (대한제국)? If so, then it seems like the article's former location, at Gojong of Korea, is preferable. Am I missing something? -- Visviva 16:38, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I changed it partly because there were more links to "of Joseon" than to "of Korea", so it was largely a practical matter (though it brought the entry into line with the articles that I'd been editing; if I'd been doing them in reverse order, I might have decided differently...). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ye, shouldn't it be "Gojong I of Korea" or something like that, seeing as he was "Emperor of Korea", not "of Joseon"...that was the family name. That'd be like calling Emperor Akihito of Japan, "Akihito of Yamato". -Alex, 12.220.157.93 02:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC).

just to clarify, joseon was not the family name, but the name of the country. see Names of Korea for how koreans named their country; they didn't name it after the dynasty family name as the chinese did. see also korean naming convention, linked at the top of this page. Appleby 05:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Gojong of Korea[edit]

The title of this article needs to be changed.

The title of the Myeongseong article is clearly "Empress Myeongseong," the title she is known by Koreans and the title she used during her reign as Empress of the Han Empire (which was established in 1897 as the official elevation of the status of the Kingdom of Joseon to Han Empire.) Therefore, this should be titled as "Emperor Gwangmuje," the title Gojong used as Emperor of the Han Empire.

He was also never styled as Emperor Gojong. Gojong was his temple name and was used as King Gojong during his reign as King of Joseon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepowederoom (talkcontribs)

You have a point, but note that all other Korean ruler articles use temple names (where known) rather than contemporary or era names. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)#Royalty and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (monarchs) for more background information. If anything, it seems that it is the Myeongseong article which should be renamed. -- Visviva 11:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I'm going to have to disagree. Gojong officially elevated around tweleve kings before him to the status of Emperor during his short lived Han Empire. However, they were never officially known by their dynasty names whereas Empress Myeongseong was and still is amongst Koreans. Empress Myeongseong and Emperor Gwangmuje were known by their dynasty names during their latter part of their reigns (and in Myeongseong's death as well). I believe it is only fit for the Gojong of Korea to be changed to Emperor Gwangmuje. Many Korean textbooks refer to him as Emperor Gwangmuju from 1896-1919, Gojong being used for his years as King of Joseon. He resigned as an Emperor and passed the crown to his son as an Emperor. We don't say Consul Napoleon but rather we say Emperor Napoleon because that was the title he achieved fame with and the title he installed as ruler of the French Empire. It's the same logic with Gwangmuje.
Also, if it won't be changed to Gwangmuje, it should be at least changed to King Gojong or Gojong of Joseon, not Korea. The idea of Korea without a monarchy did not come into existance until after Japanese colonialsm. - the powderoom


POV tag[edit]

I added the POV tag because the article was plainly badly one sided and needs revising by someone that knows more about the subject. Was somebody trying to pull some trick or something? they said the Empress was raped 9 years after her article says she died?

--Jadger 03:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Badly articles are removed and I'm introduce the New articles.--Historiographer (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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Title[edit]

Why does this page have his title in it? Most royalty pages are [Name] of [Country], EG. Gojong of Korea. What's different here? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Poisoned[edit]

There is wide speculation about Gojong was poisoned by Japanese, we should add something about this.--Korsentry 04:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoreanSentry (talkcontribs)

This article needs some work....[edit]

For example, this statement appears here:

"During Heungseon Daewongun's reign, faction politics, Seowon and power wielded by the Andong Kim clan completely disappeared."

But on the Seowon page the following appears:

"...finally, in 1871, he ordered all but a handful closed."

So, which is it....all, or some?

There is no reference cited for this quote:

One representative warned forebodingly of Japanese ambitions in Asia: "The United States does not realize what Japan's policy in the Far East is and what it portends for the American people. The Japanese adopted a policy that in the end will give her complete control over commerce and industry in the Far East. Japan is bitter against the United States and against Great Britain. If the United States does not watch Japan closely she will force the Americans and the English out of the Far East."

Meanwhile, this sort of style is unacceptable....

"The empress had attempted to counter Japanese interference in Korea and was considering turning to Russia or China for support. After the assassination of his consort.

[New section] Reach a climax of Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea Meanwhile, Japanese was victory in the Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895)..."

Yeah, that style won't fly in polite company....this is wrong in so many ways, but "Japanese was victory"? Now what exactly does that mean?

And wasn't Goro acquitted by the court at Hiroshima? So, why does the following assert positively that:

"In 1895, Empress Myeongseong was assassinated by Japanese agents. The Japanese minister to Korea, Miura Goro orchestrated the plot against her."

Shouldn't that be alleged, or whatever other weasel wording is available?

Finally, there appears to be little substance in this article. Kojong tap-danced between his father, the ever-present yangban conservatism and factionalism, the newly awoken nationalist movement (after 1890, or thereabouts) and yet still managed to propose an essentially constitutional monarchy in place of the recently dethroned regent, a yangban-dominated oligarchy, and the tradition of an absolute monarchy as exercised by the early Yi dynasty monarch.

So, was he a visionary or a lunatic? 76.121.33.65 (talk) 10:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Thomas Aidan Bothwell

I don't know about the factual issues, but the English in this article is terrible. Is it perhaps a BabelFish translation of an article in Wiki Korea? 69.172.117.108 (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Move?[edit]

After Gojong was crowned in 1863, he was the King of Joseon for 34 years, and the Emperor of Korea for only 10 years. Is the title appropriate?--Seonoo of Kim (ANSWER IN MY T.A.L.K. P.A.G.E!!!!!!!!!) 06:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Foreign character warning box[edit]

WP:LEADORDER says "If required, they should come adjacent to, or near, any text that has the foreign characters in question, such that scrolling is not required to see the box. This is generally after short infoboxes, but before long ones." (emphasis mine) For this article, the Korean text appears in the first paragraph of the lede section, and the {{Infobox royalty}} is too long to show the box on the same screen if it is placed after the infobox. --Kusunose 00:23, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Well noted and understood. Thank you for clarrifying my mistake. --DoulosCore (talk) 10:17, 5 December 2014 (UTC)