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Same old same old.

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Why mention Alerus and REA? Gotta get a reference to UND in there somehow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.242.82 (talkcontribs)

The fact that the Fargodome used to be the only major events center in the area, but now has two major competitors seems worthy of inclusion to me. --MatthewUND(talk) 22:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And yet no reference to Alerus' red ink and competition from the FargoDome in Alerus' article, Hmmmm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.242.82 (talkcontribs)
Your wish has been granted. The Alerus Center article now prominently lists the Fargodome as a competitor. --MatthewUND(talk) 00:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite! You're forgetting about the financial part. Anyway, my wish was to have this unnecessary reference removed! I just do not understand why you refuse to remove the reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.58.166.109 (talkcontribs)
The line you're referring to is "Despite the increased competition the Fargodome has always remained profitable." That doesn't sound very biased against the Fargodome to me. Regardless, I was not the person who placed this line in the article, yet I have removed it so this talk page doesn't become any longer. --MatthewUND(talk) 08:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not the Bismarck Civic Center? Excel Center etc. etc. etc

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Obviously a thinly disguised attempt to get UND and Grand Forks some publicity. It doesn't belong here! It should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.242.82 (talkcontribs)

I assure you that nothing about this article is an attempt to get "publicity" for anything. The event centers that you mention are not in direct competition with Fargo for events like the events centers located elsewhere in the Red River Valley are. --MatthewUND(talk) 23:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coppyrighted material

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I just removed a mass inclusion of copyrighted material taken from this external website. Much of the information from the external website is useful and can be merged into this Wikipedia article, but it is not appropriate to simply copy and paste large amounts of material from another website into Wikipedia articles. --MatthewUND(talk) 23:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The stuff about REA and Alerus has got to go!

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It just doesn't belong here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.58.166.109 (talkcontribs)

No one can claim anymore that the Fargodome is in any way being treated unfairly with references to its competitors in this article. The articles for the Alerus Center and Ralph Engelstad Arena now list competitors of those arenas as well. --MatthewUND(talk) 00:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the effort, but that just doesn't do it. The references to the Fargodome in the Alerus and REA articles do not call in to question the financial viability of those facilities because of the competition from the Fargodome, as does the corresponding reference in the Fargodome article. Again, your bias is showing. Either rewrite the reference to the Fargodome in the articles about the GF arenas, particularily Alerus, in a way that questions their finances, rewrite the reference in the Fargodome article to simply list its competitors or simply remove all the references entirely. I hope you choose the later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.58.166.109 (talkcontribs)
As you can see, this article no longer mentions anything about the finances of the Fargodome. I was not the person who put this line in the article in the first place (it was one of the legion of anonymous IP users who are so fascinated with this particular article), yet I have removed it so this discussion can hopefully cease. --MatthewUND(talk) 08:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How come no other venue listed on Wikipedia references any other regional venues that 'have seen increased competition'? Seems like you're the only one determined to bully your bias here. Removing the finance information...why would you do that? Oh yeah, the Alerus and REA never turn a profit and the Fargodome always has. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.164.217.19 (talkcontribs)
By listing obvious competitors in an events center's article, it just makes that particular article that much more complete. Obvious competitors for the Alerus Center and Ralph Engelstad Arena are also prominently listed in those articles so the Fargodome isn't being treated unfairly in this article. --MatthewUND(talk) 07:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So again, why doesn't any other venue on Wikipedia list their competitors? And then are those venue listings incomplete because they don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayOw (talkcontribs)
Please start signing your own comments. It's easy. Just type this ~~~~ after your comment. --MatthewUND(talk) 22:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Forks Bitterness

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You can see the Grand Forks bitterness displayed everywhere. It is this petty bickering that keeps the state of North Dakota from moving forward. First it was the Fargodome and then it was NDSU going to Division I. The citizens of Grand Forks and alumni of UND in both scenarios have had to essentially eat their words. First Grand Forks (and many Fargo) folks said the Fargodome was going to fail and then Grand Forks attempts to build a facilty that is comparable. Then NDSU goes to Division I in college athletics and UND and their supporters were quick to bash that move. Now what is UND doing? Oh yeah, moving up to Division I athletics. But before doing so UND ended the longest running football rivalry over nothing. Keep up the good work there MatthewUND...you are a true representative of Grand Forks and Fargo hater and thus, a typical North Dakotan...complain about any and everything in regards to our communities...

No one needs to look far to see why outmigration of North Dakota is the best thing for a person to do. If you remain you will bicker and try and destroy regional venues and college athletics, both of which are a blip on the national scene. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayOw (talkcontribs)

Wikipedia article talk pages are to be used for discussing articles and not personal opinions about towns, states, or universities. --MatthewUND(talk) 00:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Capacity

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Does anyone know where the full arena concerts capacity number came from? I believe that I have seen large displays in the Fargodome that put this number higher; similar to what is seen at http://www.vtrenz.net/imaeds/ownerassets/39/Kenny%20Rogers.pdf pg 2 beginning of last paragraph: The FARGODOME (www.fargodome.com) is a 27,000-seat multi-purpose facility.

I can call the Fargodome tomorrow and check I suppose. --Ndstate 07:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Has been updated to what Fargodome Officials told me. --Ndstate 18:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Annual Event Order

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I was just wondering if the Annual Events are in any order? If not I will alphabetize them. --Ndstate 18:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No order that I'm aware of. --MatthewUND(talk) 20:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Info

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I have added much to the article. If you think anything is not appropriate please let me know. Thanks --Ndstate 22:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking good. I just made a couple of very minor formatting changes. Usually, only the first word in a section title is in caps and, generally, there is only one blank line between sections. I also renamed the "Random facts" section to "Trivia" because that's the title usually used for sections like that. You might be interested in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. There is lots of valuable info available there and I personally look at it all the time. --MatthewUND(talk) 22:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks. --Ndstate 23:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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