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Progressive Metal!?

What makes them so different from the scorpions or any other hair band? I definatly don't hear it. I'm sorry Dream Theater and this are not the same genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.29.31 (talk) 22:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I can find references to prove that you are wrong. All music Guide states that they are progressive metal [1] and people know for a fact that they are as well. What makes them so different from "hair" metal bands is that they actually are different. --CircafuciX (talk) 02:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You honestly must not be that familliar with their work, What songs or albums have you heard? Listen to "Parallels" or "A pleasant shade of gray" and you should be able to notice how they aren't like "the scorpions or any other hair band". They are most certainly progressive metal. Zanders5k (talk) 22:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who said it was Dream Theater that defined the genre progressive metal? Although I'm still a huge Theater fan, not every other prog metal band has to sound like them. Both bands take traits used in prog rock such as complexity, long songs, and odd time signatures and combine that with elements of metal. Sounding like Dream Theater is not the definition of the genre. Repner1 (talk) 17:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You guys pretty much don't know what you are talking about. For starters, Dream Theater were NOT the pioneers of the genre. In a sense, late 80's Queensryche (Operation: Mindcrime and on) and Fates Warning (Past No Exit) formed the blade of prog. metal, and Dream Theater sharpened the edge. Also, until after No Exit, Fates Warning were Power Metal, same goes with Queensryche, until Operation: Mindcrime, they were straight up Heavy Metal. Therefore, that may be why you don't hear much Progressive in them. It could also be that prog. is so loosely based, most bands have very different sounds. -- Zifirl

Rage had a lot of progressive elements, but I can see the argument that it might not have truly been there yet. O:M, Perfect Symmetry, and When Dream and Day Unite really made progressive metal "a thing" IMO. And to address the main point, Fates are clearly progressive. Maybe s/he only heard selected songs from the 80s that didn't show this very well. MXVN (talk) 17:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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