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Feyzullah Mirza Qajar

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Hi,

My suggestion to change existing as below. Persia's Qajar Dynasty to be changed to Iran's Qajar dynasty. Persia most of time considered to be relevant to Persians people, however Iran is multinational country and minorities such as Azeris/Turks played grate role in a history of Iran and it's unity. Hence, it will be also fair to add "of Turkic origin" par as well which is exactly similar to the information in wikipedia page for Qajar Dynasty.

Feyzullah Mirza Qajar (Russian: Фейзулла Мирза Каджар; Persian: فیض الله میرزا قاجار‎; Azerbaijani: Feyzulla Mirzə Qacar) also Fazullah-Mirza Qajar (Russian: Фазулла-Мирза-Каджар; Persian: فضل الله میرزا قاجار‎) (b. December 15, 1872 - d. 1920) - was a prince of Iran's Qajar dynasty of Turkic origin and a decorated Imperial Russian and Azerbaijani military commander, having the rank of Major-General.

Looking forward healthy discussion.

Sincerely, Mirhasanov (talk) 23:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Persia and Iran are synonyms, that's like.. basic knowledge. And no, the Turkic origin is irrelevant here, which isn't the same case for the Qajar dynasty. I'm reverting it back, don't revert me, reach consensus instead of this disruptive pattern. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HiHistoryofIran

Thanks for your comment. From sources which I read it stating that Persians and Iranians are different groups. Persians are Iranians but not all Iranians are Persians. Hence, I do believe that it is not right to refer it as Persia's Qajar dynasty as country name is Iran. However, if you insist that it should be Persia instead of Iran, I do believe that we should mention origin of dynasty where Feyzullah Mirza Qajar belongs to, as I noted not all people living in Persia are not persians. What do you thing? Mirhasanov (talk) 23:23, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Look, Iran and Persia are synonyms, ethnic Persians and Iranians are not. I'm not here to teach you history, and the quality and neutrality of Wikipedia articles shouldn't suffer because of that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HistoryofIran Well that is why when we use word of Persia we should mention ethnic origin, because as you mentioned ethnic Iranians and Persians aren't synonyms. This created complication and therefore I added information about ethnicity, otherwise it looks like he was persian but in reality he is Iranian origin, isn't he?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirhasanov (talkcontribs) 23:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]