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I appreciate policing and removal of material considered irrelevant, false, or unverifiable. However, in some instances, information is not easily verifiable through consensus or on data bases, but informally through different witnesses accounts, certain events can be reliably pieced together. In these cases, what is said becomes obvious and it sufices as is because enough unrelated people know so to be case. For example; Doubting Pelé's 1000+ goal claim... In doing so, many sceptics discount the fact Pelé professional career started at 16 years of age (at 17 playing in his first W. Cup) in an environment where championship and tournament winning teams in Brazil sometimes had seasons with sixty or more matches, where it was common to see seven, eight, nine or more goals being regularly scored per game. Thus, looking at his long playing career, lending at least mathematical credence to the claim. Another method is by reasoning the balance of probability as in a court of law, where absolute proof is absent to prove or disprove a case. In such cases, a good and fair judge will see through what is being said to determine a reasonable outcome, instead of dismissing the case outright. CharlieCares (talk) 11:55, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That might be the case for many of the outlets we cite, but what you are describing is the very definition of original research, particularly synthesis of sources, which is not acceptable to Wikipedia. You can, of course, cite publications that make such assertions with reasonable qualification. Nzd (talk) 12:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Planning to edit the History section of this article.

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Hello users and editors of this Wikipedia page. I am planning on editing the history section of this Wikipedia page. Specifically I want to edit the last paragraph which discusses how football spread and influenced the former colonies. I will add more information on how football influenced the Portuguese colonies. Specifically I will add information on the African colonies. There also seems to be a lack of a citation in this paragraph. I think it can help the article if I put at least one citation in this paragraph. I will add citations for players like Eusébio and explain where they were from as well and even their accomplishments. I will add a few sentences describing the introduction of football in the colonies and the general backgrounds of the football players. I plan on using the book, Following the Ball : The Migration of African Soccer Players Across the Portuguese Colonial Empire, 1949–1975. This book is written by Todd Cleveland and he is a professor at the University of Arkansas. He is a scholar in African studies so I feel that he is a credible author here. If anyone wants to comment or suggest anything about my planned edits please let me know; either on this talk page or on my talk page. S4mon (talk) 22:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]