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A fact from Fort Center appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 April 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Fort Center may be the earliest archaeological site in Florida where maize was cultivated?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/April.

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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Thompson, Victor; Pluckhahn, Thomas (2012). "Integrating LiDAR data and conventional mapping of the Fort Center site in south-central Florida: A comparative approach". Journal of Field Archaeology. 37: 289–301 – via academia.edu.
Austin, Robert (2015). "The ritual uses of lithic raw materials during the Woodland Period, Fort Center, Southern Florida". Journal of Field Archaeology. 40: 413–427 – via academia.edu.
Thompson, Victor D.; Gremillion, Kristen J.; Pluckhahn, Thomas J. (January 2013). "Challenging the Evidence for Prehistoric Wetland Maize Agriculture at Fort Center, Florida". American Antiquity. 78: 181–193. JSTOR 23486391. - Donald Albury 01:24, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lawres, Nathan R. (Winter 2017). "Materializing Ontology in Monumental Form: Engaging the Ontological in the Okeechobee Basin, Florida". Journal of Anthropological Research. 73 – via The University of Chicago Press Journals. - This appears to be the source cited as "Lawres" in the article, but it is paywalled.

Great work

Nice article! Do you mind if I add an info box? I've got one made up for the site, but saw you were actively editing and didnt want to edit conflict with you Donald Albury. He iro 17:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Old data and unfortunately a classic example of bias and racism

I cannot find via the history, when the Fort Center page was originally written. I have attempted to edit the text. Sometimes successfully and on 7/17/18 unsuccessfully. There are three major problems with the page as it now exists:

1. The length. How so much text related to just one of many archaeologists dominates a subject is suspect. 2. there has been 70 years since this one archaeologist, William H. Sears surveyed and dated the Fort Center site. This applies to ALL Wikipedia sites that exist to provide "educational content" of the archaeological kind to the global community. Thompson and Pluckhahn carbon dating and LiDAR technology has the Great Circle now dated at 850 B.C. and the Mortuary Mound Pond Complex 200 years later. therefore, paragraph one ( 450 BCE is off by 10 centuries. Therefore those paragraphs Periods I through IV are no longer true. Even when the article was first submitted, Jerald T. Milanich changed the taxonomy to Okeechobee Culture Region. Post 1980, Glade Periods referred to a smaller area of south Florida consisting of: ten thousand islands, Everglades and Miami-Dade. 3. Bias and racism toward hunter-gather Native-Americans. It is a well established fact that western anthropologists and archaeologists were subject to racial bias. The " Maize cultivation" paragraph ( which was immediately discredited by William G. Johnson in 1991 ) was Sears' view that hunter-gathering Native Americans were incapable of complex and sophisticated beliefs and rituals. By insisting that they were argriculturalists, he implied, as have many of his generation and background ) that "civilized" societies had to be settled growers of corn.

Presently, I am working with the Atlanta office of National Parks, Historic Landmarks section. I noticed the C Wikipedia, low interest and importance grades for Fort Center. As I have attempted in my edits of: Fort Center, Big Mound City, Tony's Mound and Ortona Prehistoric village, There is ample proof that Fort Center as one of four monumental ceremonial complexex built at the same time in a very small geographic location BY HUNTER-GATHERES, represent the most significant of such in world history. Can you say UNESCO World Heritage Sites. I can. See Wikipedia, Poverty Point page designated by UNESCO and only a single site, not four. EHMANNV (talk) 12:09, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can review the history of any page in Wikipedia by clicking on, depending on the skin you are using, either the 'History' tab at the top of the page, or on the 'Page' tab, and then on 'History' on the drop down menu. The default is to show fifty revisions at a time. You can scroll up ("newer") or down ("older") to see pages of additional revisions.

I started the article in my user space in March of 2011. It looked like this when I moved it into main space almost a month later. I used all of the reliable sources (that had more than a passing mention of the site) that I could find at the time. Please note that, per Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View and Wikipedia:No Original Research, we can only use what is said in reliable sources when writing a WP article. We cannot put our own interpretation or synthesis of material in the article. For example, I was (and remain) uncomfortable with Sears' theories on the South American origins of the Fort Center inhabitants and their cultivation of maize, but none of the reliable sources I found explicitly contradicted those theories.

I urge you to learn how to cite sources in articles. Citations can be created manually, or by using one of the citation templates, such as can accessed by clicking on the 'Cite' at the top of the edit screen. Please note that the content guideline advises that citations added to an existing article should be in the same style as existing citations in that article. - Donald Albury 15:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thompson & Pluckhahn

I found the article that had been cited as Thompson and Pluckhahn with no other information, and added it to the References section. Someone needs to read the article and figure out the page numbers for the citations in the article, but it is late. I'll see if I can get to it tomorrow. - Donald Albury 03:17, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Revising reference style

In there are no objections in the next week or so, I plan to convert notes and references in this article to use Efn and Sfn templates. - Donald Albury 20:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]