Talk:Four Pillars of Destiny

This article was nominated for deletion on December 19, 2006. The result of the discussion was Keep and Merge.

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Articles for deletion[edit]

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Four Pillars of Destiny, would someone please merge that article into this and leave a redirect. Thanks. Guy (Help!) 23:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Japanese-wikipedia,more advanced informing page we can find.The Four Pillars of Destiny is very complex and difficult.On the job training(as a fortune-teller),is most important.(articles)---Naotyan 02:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been merged successfully along with the korean Saju name. Yes this is so advanced I don't expect this page to ever have anything close to complete info. But I believe four pillars is just a concept. The individual different fortune telling procedures like Zi wei dou shu is what's complex. Benjwong 17:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's true.The Four Pillars of Destiny is very popular in Osaka.In the korean offsprings' society ,the theory is spread.Of course,Zi wei dou shu is well-known in the fortune-tellers' guild,the si tyu sui mei is the most device technic of foreseeing the coming days.---Naotyan 02:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know the fortune tellers in Japan have looked into the future of Prince Hisahito of Akishino. People were talking about it in Hong Kong. Benjwong 02:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(As an amateur-fortune-teller),Prince Hisahito of Akishino is not a mere heritage of Prince Akishino,but also the heritage of Prince Naruhito.Furthermore,the imperial family will be good-balanced while his life.His birthday(6 Sep. 2006) is the source of this hypothesis.Could you please tell and explain the device theory to us?---Naotyan 04:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

I believe that the 傷官 (Four Pillars of Destiny) article should be merge into the Four Pillars of Destiny article. I further believe that the 傷官 (Four Pillars of Destiny) article was always meant to be a part of the Four Pillars of Destiny article.

I cite the 傷官 (Four Pillars of Destiny) article itself:

we read Syō-Kan(like the pronunciation , Show-can), in Chinese we often see as 背禄) is a pronoun and a concept in Four Pillars of Destiny.

For the complete research of Four Pillars of Destiny , it is the most important concept.The 傷官 worker is too complicated and sometimes chenges into an extreme effector.

Further more, the 傷官 (Four Pillars of Destiny) article seems to build on the Terminology selection and general page concept of the Four Pillars of Destiny article. Although, I do know not enough about Chinese astrology to say for sure. Meojive (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(From the Author)

The 傷官 is so broad concept and the "Four pillars of Destiny" is forming the perfect links of the ten,"比肩・劫財・食神・傷官・偏財・正財・偏官・正官・印綬・偏印".

The synthesis of two pages is so easy,however for the readers,it will be so difficult and uneasy after the synthesis.----The DQN,macbeth (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No merge. I have a problem with the Japanese one being merged with the Chinese system article. It's also confusing that the titles are almost the same (especially for the English reader). Maybe just a reference in the introduction with a redirect line at the top: "For the Japanese Four Pillars system..." and a link there. On the Japanese page, "For the Chinese Four Pillars system..." Perhaps change the titles to Four Pillars of Destiny (Chinese astrology) and so on. No-one's done anything so far, so I guess there's no rush. Julia Rossi (talk) 05:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Provided they're two different branches of the same system, this article should reasonably address both systems, perhaps using summary style while maintaining separate articles for each under different names. If they're reasonably distinct concepts, then there should be a disambiguation page. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 20:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not making sense[edit]

This article is completely incomprehensible. The example given and the theory on which it is based are given as memory aids to someone already familiar with the meaning and purpose of the concepts used. Could someone who speaks Chinese translate the more basic Ba Zi article from the Chinese wiki? Ernobe (talk) 16:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I briefly looked over the sexagenary cycle, which helps give badly-needed context for where the stem-branch associations for each year comes from, but it's much harder to find the same for months, days, and times of day. I'm going to link/copy the relevant parts of that page here, but someone will need to find better, clearer explanations for terms that don't have write-ups already. A garbage person (talk) 22:26, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]