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I removed the following two sections from the article. They'd probably be good for wikinews, but they're not notable events that belong in an encyclopedia article on the town. -- NORTH ^talk 00:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LOL I've lived in Freehold since 1995. I have five kids that went through the school system. I have known several police officers over the years. No one was talking about anything crashing from the sky. Someone, somewhere would have said something. Did anyone see the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man, too? William T Aromando (talk) 02:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meteorite crash

On January 3, 2007, a 13-ounce, kidney-shaped iron meteorite crashed through the roof of a suburban Freehold Township home located near CR-537. The Freehold Township Police Department called in the Federal Aviation Administration who determined that the object was not part of an airplane or blue ice. Experts soon claimed that a meteor shower had occurred within the area one day prior and subsequently entitled the derelict meteorite, 'Freehold Township' in honor of the town. ^[1]^[2]

Kozloski Road Tragedy

On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, four people were killed and one person was left in critical condition when three high school students driving in a Cadillac CTS collided head-on with a Dodge Caravan which was being used as a school transportation vehicle in a major accident on a new extension of Kozloski Road between Dutch Lane Rd and CR 537. The accident gained major regional attention and made the front pages of state newspapers. It was the top headline of major New York, New Jersey, and Philadelphia news outlets. The high school students who were pronounced dead at the scene, were identified as 17-year-old Michael Dragonetti, 17-year-old James Warnock, and 16-year-old Andrew Lundy. The students were well known throughout the town and attended nearby Freehold Borough High School. They had been dismissed from school just ten minutes earlier. In the Dodge Caravan, driver Ruth A. MacArthur, 68, of Old Bridge, New Jersey was killed and an unidentified 13-year-old boy was seriously injured. Since speed was said to have been a factor, the accident placed pressure on state police departments to enforce New Jersey's provisional drivers license laws and increased awareness on the importance of driver education programs in state high schools. It also left many state residents demanding that the state implement more restrictions on young drivers and raise the eligible driving age which is currently 17 for those born prior to 1992 and 18 for those born after. This tragedy, which took place one week after the meteorite crash, once again put Freehold Township in the headlines and brought more media attention to the suburban community.^[3]

Exposure of embedded references

^ Meteorite Crashes Into Bathroom, Discovery Channel, January 11, 2007
^ Newmarker, Chris (11 January 2007). "Mystery object that fell on N.J. home is identified". Delaware News-Journal (reprinting from Associated Press). Retrieved 2007-01-11.
^ Freehold students light candles for friends killed in crash, Asbury Park Press, January 11, 2007

Discussion

Meteorite falls are both newsworthy and encyclopedic owing to the rarity with which they are documented and the nature of the artifact subsequently available for scientific study. However, I think if I were to restore the section to the article without some other statements of support, the addition would be quickly removed. I've edited the section slightly. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to go ahead and restore the section on the meteorite, feel free; I definitely see your point. I'm not entirely sure that it's appropriate for inclusion on an article about the town, though. Perhaps one option would be to create a new article on the meteorite itself, even if it would just be a stub.

The only reason I removed it was because I was working on the CR 55 article, came here because of the car accident link, and lumped them together -- the car accident definitely isn't notable enough for inclusion here. -- NORTH ^talk 07:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I won't object to removal of the car crash, which was horrific but not clearly encyclopedic. The meteorite was national news and an extremely rare event. The removal of both made the combination seem fishy after a series of vandalism. Let's put the meteorite stuff back and I think we have agreement. Alansohn 22:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem as I said above, but I still prefer treating the meteorite as a separate article, even if it would be a hopeless stub. -- NORTH ^talk 22:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, considering the meteorite was bestowed with the appellation, 'Freehold Township', it seems to thus render the incident noteworthy---a brief sentence or two would suffice.Nalco 15:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Postscriptum: I almost neglected to contrast the matter, although, I can cordially state that a meteroite crash is, incontrovertibly, more noteworthy than the already extant article regarding the 'Senior League World Series Champions'? I would suggest to replace such a trifle with the meteorite infromation---that would properly rectify the article.Nalco 15:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Bruce Springsteen

When did Bruce live in Freehold Township? Unless someone can document this, he did not live in Freehold Twp, he lived in Freehold Borough.Aspenguy2 (talk)

I have deleted Bruce Springsteen from the "Notable People" section. To my knowledge, Bruce never lived in Freehold Twp at all. He should only be listed in the Freehold Borough Wiki page.Aspenguy2 (talk)

As far as I can tell, you're correct; I think someone was confusing the two when they added his name here. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:30, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I've never actually met him, but my brother Ken got him to autograph 2 album covers when he was working at the movie theatre. He ran home because we lived "behind" the movie theatre and when Bruce came out of the movie, he signed them. Us "Freeholders" are pretty territorial about things related to the Freehold we grew up in.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Bruce lived in multiple houses growing up in Freehold Borough. He started out at Randolph St until he was 6. The family then moved to 39 1/2 Institute St until he was in high school. This was a short walk to St. Rose every morning. When he was in high school, he lived on South St. When his parents left Freehold Boro, he left Freehold Boro never to live there again. So, the township really can't claim Bruce as their own.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Revolutionary War updates

I added " The initial engagement was in doubt until Washington arrived because Charles Lee was retreating from the battlefield. Washington rallied the Continentals and strongly engaged the British forces and they held their ground on the battlefield." This is a more accurate description of what happened. It also gives context for the following paragraph where it states that Charles Lee was court-martialed after the battle.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Wow, whoever created this section took great liberties from the text in the Adelberg book. I purchased the book and what was supposedly excerpts from the book do not in any way reflect what Adelberg actually wrote. So, I'm reading and correcting all of the Adelberg references. I've also ordered the Pepe book and am waiting for that to be delivered to cross-check those entries.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Railroad tracks location

The railroad tracks are not near the courthouse, they're over a block away and as they leave the area of the train station get even further away from the courthouse. I changed this to say they run nearly parallel to Throckmorton Street as they exit the Boro & Township and enter into Manalapan Twp & Englishtown.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Henry Hudson Trail info correction

The trail actually starts in Freehold Boro on East Main Street across from the Briarwood Condos and east of the Shell station on East Main Street. There is no parking at the start point and the parking area is located in the township on Dutch Lane Road.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Nestle Factory location

I have deleted the Nestle factory reference. According to a town map, about 95% of the factory complex is located in Freehold Boro with a very small portion of the complex is in the Twp. I have to check Pepe's book to verify that it actually says the factory is in the Boro, but if it does, her book is wrong. According to the folklore of Freehold, Nestle stays for the quality of the water in Freehold Boro. Since they manufacture freeze-dried coffee (we could smell it when in school at St. Rose), this seems logical.Aspenguy2 (talk)

The original writer definitely took liberties with the Nestle mention. On page 140 of Bebe's book, it is mentioned, but it says "Freehold" as opposed to saying it specifically was Freehold Township. So, by checking a map of Freehold, you'll see Nestle is mainly in the Boro, not in the township. So this is why I've deleted it from the Township entry.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Somebody put the Nestle reference back in. As noted, a very small portion of the plant grounds are in the township, but the majority is in the borough.Aspenguy2 (talk) 19:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lone Pine update

I added a URL to the EPA web page discussing the Lone Pine site.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Added a URL to the 2019 EPA report which indicates that the spill is mostly under control at this point.Aspenguy2 (talk)

The Township in the 20th century - updates

Brockway was a major facility constructed starting in 1955 and operated and expanded for many years until 1988 and this was not noted at all. I also added that it is now an Iron Mountain site.Aspenguy2 (talk)

There is a conflict on the closing dates. According to the Googled site sha.org shows the closing as 1988, not 1991. I'm going to try and track down Bebe to find out where the author got the 1991 closing date.Aspenguy2 (talk)

My source for the closing date verified that they were bought by Owens and became Owens-Brockway in 1988. Owens-Brockway then ceased operations in 1991 as per Bebe.Aspenguy2 (talk)

Park of Freehold Township

I would like to update/add information regarding the Parks of Freehold Township. Source of my information is from Freehold Township Parks & Recreation. I am new to editing Wikipedia. William T Aromando (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Meteorite Crashes Into Bathroom, Discovery Channel, January 11, 2007

[2] Newmarker, Chris (11 January 2007). "Mystery object that fell on N.J. home is identified". Delaware News-Journal (reprinting from Associated Press). Retrieved 2007-01-11.

[3] Freehold students light candles for friends killed in crash, Asbury Park Press, January 11, 2007

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