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Suggestion[edit]

I suggest expanding this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer)into a list of disambiguation links. Also adding in the exert below. [Please excuse my formating, Im not very familiar with Wiki.]

Geezer (Band), is one of three different names used by Geezer Butler's Heavy Metal band, G/Z/R.

"The band has actually been marketed with three different names on the three releases they've had. In 1995, the band was marketed as G//Z/R. In 1997, it was merely Geezer, and in 2005, it was GZR. Most fans refer to the band as Geezer, although Butler himself refers to the band name as GEE-ZED-R (using the British prounouncation of the letter Z). This incarnation of the band is not to be confused with Geezer's previous attempt in 1985 to form a solo band, then known as The Geezer Butler Band - the two bands are totally separate."

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G/Z/R — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.35.236 (talk) 22:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

(Suggestion was implemented by VladTheInformer on 01:30, 3 October 2006‎). - M0rphzone (talk) 00:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Old Geezer ? Or just Geezer ?[edit]

I'm unclear about U.S. usage. Does the word 'Geezer' imply old by itself? A bit of googling suggests that the word geezer for old person is often preceded by the word 'old', so it looks as though geezer = old is tautologous. Hakluyt bean 20:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I have myself learned English mainly from British sources, so I have become accustomed to "geezer" meaning just any random bloke. But when I called an American a geezer, he thought I was calling him old. So I think that in the USA, geezer does indeed mean old by itself. JIP | Talk 18:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I am a 62 year old Briton: my take on geezer is that it usually implies 'old' and is frequently seen as 'old geezer'. To my mind it is somewhat uncomplimentary, but not hugely so. I think younger Britons have it as a neutral word, equivalent to 'bloke'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.188.41.154 (talk) 17:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

In the US. sometimes it's "old geezer" and sometimes (less often) just "geezer"--it may be redundant but it's common usage. PraeceptorIP (talk) 01:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Citation request[edit]

In America, it generally refers to an old man, usually eccentric. This may derive from an English habit of presaging a word with redundant use of the word 'old' as in: old so-and-so, who's that old geezer? where the subject is not necessarily an aged or elderly person. [citation needed]

  • not sure to what the citation request is attached. If it's the redundant use of the word 'old' in English, then.... I may be able to help you old fruit, old chap, old sport :). My British wife might call me her old man. So might my Southern wife. Any old how, that's all I can say on that;). If it's the origin of geezer = old in the U.S. then as above I'm not entirely sure it necessarily does = old, at least not without the use of the word 'old'. So it seems it's the word 'old' that does it, one way or another. If it's overly speculative to say I'll leave out the explanation, tho it's the only one that presents itself. Hakluyt bean 21:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Citation added.Hakluyt bean 12:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

In America, it does reflect being old, usually in addition to being senile (no citation, just general knowledge from my living here). If said to someone it's taken as an insult, even if the person is of age. --Amokk 03:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No, sometimes old geezers like me refer jocularly to themselves as geezers. PraeceptorIP (talk) 01:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Crystal Geezer[edit]

What about explaining what a "crystal geezer" is ? ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.89.128.98 (talk) 15:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

A brand of spring water from the States, apparently, timesonline Hakluyt bean 12:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
From what I've gathered on the article, that's for the actual brand of the water (I've never heard of a Crystal Geezer). (And after additional searching, it's the British misspelling for "Crystal Geyser", which I've drank plenty of times). What he meant was the term in regards to age/reputation, and that wink verifies this I think.
In regards to the other use, the article (from Wayback Machine since it's a dead link) says that a "Crystal geezer" brings to mind a young Eastender, halfway to becoming a "Diamond Geezer". This statement addresses both "Crystal Geezer" and "Diamond Geezer" in what I'm assuming to be a man's age or reputation. I don't know what these terms mean, so someone else will have to elaborate. - M0rphzone (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Expand, merge or redirect[edit]

This page is a mere dictionary definition (something which Wikipedia is not). It explains the meaning (with regional variations), several alleged (and one definitely wrong) eytmologies and some usage notes of a slang expression. While there is some interesting content here, I can't find any encyclopedic content on this page. Nothing here rises past what I would expect to read in a truly great unabridged dictionary. The definitions and usage discussions belong over in Wiktionary where folks with the right skills, interests and lexical tools can more easily sort out the meanings and origins.

Options to fix the page here include:

  1. Expand the page with encyclopedic content - that is, content that goes well beyond the merely lexical.
  2. Redirect the page to a more general page on the appropriate sub-genre of slang.
  3. Replace the current contents with a soft-redirect to Wiktionary (usually done using the {{wi}} template).
  4. Cut the lexical content down to the amount that would be appropriate at the top of a disambiguation page.

Given the other potential meanings of the link, I'm implementing option 4 for now. Rossami (talk) 04:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for discussing it with everybody. Hakluyt bean (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Diamond Geezer[edit]

In the UK (more so in the past than the present) Diamond Geezer is a relatively common expression meaning that someone is a good or reliable person. as this talk suggests Geezer has negative connotations in the US would it not be worth mentioning both that and its more positive connotations in the UK?(86.31.177.249 (talk) 20:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC))

Geez![edit]

"Geezer" I believe, has its origins in London's East End in the late Victorian/Edwardian period. Orignally a "geezer" was a bit of a player, a villian, a wheeler-dealer or a tough who was basically alright as long as you didn't upset him. Fingers in quite a few illicit pies, as it were. If someone was a "geezer", he "knew people who knew people", etc. One with Underworld connections, on whatever level. Later on, London rhyming slang produced "ice cream freezer" as in "Watch out for those two, they're a couple of ices". As time went on and would-be young toughs wanted to legitimise their street credentials, they would address each other as "geezer", much as youngsters nowadays address each others as "G" (Gangsta). To address one's fellow in such a way is to say; I recognise you, you're one of the boys, you're not to be trifled with. "Alright, Geez" had the same connotations as "Yo, G!". Thus the word "Geezer" was applied to people outside the criminal classes and eventually became synonymous with "bloke", "fella" etc.

"Diamond Geezer" implies one who can be counted on, who won't let you down, who won't lose his nerve in a crisis and will come through for you. But even this term origianlly had criminal overtones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.117.215 (talk) 13:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Definition of Geezer[edit]

What is the correct definition of the "geezer (misspelled form of geyser)" relating to the hot water system/hot water dispenser? I'm asking this because I saw a comment on Talk:Geyser (the first section in fact) commenting on a water heating system, so I looked at the Geyser (disambiguation) page and the definition there states that a geyser is a water heating system (and this was probably added by the guy who replied to the comment at Talk:Geyser). Since it said geyser was the correct spelling, I went and added that term to the existing definition as well. Also, is geezer actually a misspelled form of geyser or are they different terms, or did someone add the wrong term to Geyser (disambiguation)? If it is a misspelled form, then it shouldn't even be on this page anyways. I'm not familiar with the term, so hopefully some people here can clarify this. - M0rphzone (talk) 00:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Update: Since no one has any comments about this, I've gone and removed the misspelled word entry. - M0rphzone (talk) 06:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)