Talk:Gubben Noak

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Did you know... that the song "Gubben Noak" (Songs of Fredman no 35) offended the Swedish church so much that Lund chapter attempted to collect all prints and transcripts in circulation, in 1768?

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gubben Noak/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 17:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Placeholder. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, I'll respond promptly to your comments. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear! However, wait until I put the review on hold. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

By 1766, probably earlier → 1766, probably earlier
- Done.
Most likely by Bellman himself → Bellman
- Done.
Composed: by 1766 → 1766
- Done.
The song is possibly the best known of all Bellman's works. → source?
- Added.
One paragraph
- Closed up.
The information backed by both sources needs also to be mentioned in the body of the article, once done remove the source from here.
- Done.
Add to the lead the simplified and more innocent versions sung by children, as well as the recorded English versions of the song
- Done.

Done

Context[edit]

At the same time as depicting this reality, Bellman creates a Rococo picture of life, full of classical allusion, following the French post-Baroque poets; the women, including the beautiful Ulla Winblad, are "nymphs", and Neptune's festive troop of followers and sea-creatures sport in Stockholm's waters → can you split this sentence into two?

Done

Music and verse form[edit]

Sample needs to comply with Manual of Style/Music samples
- Music is out of copyright (PD is tagged) so length and similar considerations are not an issue.

You are indeed correct, sorry I'm used to work with more recent songs. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add text to the audio sample to justify usage
- Added description field to sample.
Wikilink rhyming scheme

Done

Lyrics[edit]

Remove the image, there is nothing said there that can't be said in the article
- Done.
Wikilink Fredman to Jean Fredman
- Linked.
on the mountains of Ararat, and as mentioned in → on the mountains of Ararat. As mentioned in
- Done.
No source backing up all this description
- Citation added.
"Gubben Noak is one of the biblical travesties that made Bellman popular during the 1760s" → the source only backs up the lyrics
- Ref Lönnroth added.

Done

Distribution[edit]

Being somewhat afraid of the church, Bellman chose to first publish the song anonymously on broadsheets throughout the country; although it was generally known at the time who had composed the extremely popular song. → source?
- Edited; citation added.

Done

References[edit]

Reference 3 needs page, there are 391 pages
- Removed, it's not needed here as the biography covers this.
Mama Lisa's is a Blog, unreliable source please provide a reliable one
- Removed claim and ref.

Done

Sources[edit]

Fine
- Thanks.

External links[edit]

Old boy Noah by John Irons → remove, unreliable source
- Removed.

Done

Overall[edit]

Source check: 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14 and Old boy noah
- Noted.
On hold, let me know once you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- MarioSoulTruthFan, many thanks for the very useful comments. I believe I've covered everything now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  I made some minor changes to the article, see if you are ok with those and you forgot to do some stuff. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Many thanks. Added a ref. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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