Talk:History of sugar

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This article is a mess. It is as though the writer has a serious short term memory problem and can't remember what s/he wrote in the last paragraph. The discussion on medieval and Muslim usage devotes its first paragraph to comments on sugar from the first century after having stated a couple of paragraphs earlier that sugar was invented in 350 A.D.!! I know Pliny the Elder was agenius, but I don't think he had time travel. 108.234.115.55 (talk) 20:50, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Caroenum

fills the blank in the early history. Arrguably, the stuff was mainly water, then sugar. Not saccharose, but you can't have everything. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Warrington (talk) 15:12, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like the article heavily uses one source Ponting, Clive (2000) [2000]. World history: a new perspective. London: Chatto & Windus. pp. 739. ISBN 0-701-16834-X. Which is probably a very good source, but it is not online so I am unable to follow up someplace for additional information. Would it be possible to find another source for some of these quotations? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.124.45 (talk) 03:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly known in Ancheint israel?

The Jewish Biblacal camantator Rashisays that the The part in Sameul I were Jonathan ate the honey should be read "he took the honey from the REED" and the pharse in the song of songs "he ate his honey with his honeycomb" shis really "he at his sugar with his cane" so we know Sugar was known in ancheint israel and grew there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.123.161 (talk) 19:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly, yes. Crystallized sugar was reported 5000 years ago in India. Around the eighth century A.D., Arabs introduced sugar to the Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt, North Africa, and Spain. By the tenth century, sources state, there was no village in Mesopotamia that didn't grow sugar cane. Kings and nobility maybe was able to consume this kind of delicacies, even if not everybody did.

Warrington (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some details

The Book of Exodus famously describes the Promised Land as a "land flowing with milk and honey" (33:3). However, the claim has been advanced that the original Hebrew (devash) actually refers to the sweet syrup produced from the juice of the date.^[1]

Warrington (talk) 11:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chronological Error

"Sweet potatoes

After the 21st century it was discovered"

After the 21st century is not a time that has happened yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.108.213 (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Sugar Blues

William Dufty's book Sugar Blues may not qualify as a reliable source for historical and medical purposes, but I believe its popularity makes it significant as a part of the history of sugar in modern times. Can anyone cite a reference for it being the bestselling health book of the 1970's?Zip-x (talk) 15:41, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confused chronology

The intro states it's been more than 2000 years since sugar granules were first refined, but the later text says ~350AD. What's right? --Oolong (talk) 22:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusion over basic economics

The large quoted section by Clive Ponting regarding early European sugar entrepreneurs seems to be somewhat economically illiterate - it states that demand was low, but prices were high and it was considered profitable for new entrants... an obvious contradiction. Never heard of Ponting, but a quick look at his Wikipedia bio reveals he's regarded as a bit of a crank... 109.180.67.5 (talk) 23:48, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What a bad history lesson

How does the history of sugar not include anything significant in the last 150 years or so? Where is the development of white granulated sugar (end of the 19th century) and being packaged in paper sacks? How about its use in major food (and drink) products -- starting when? When did "sugar mills" turn into refineries? Historical consumption levels? Wartime uses and rationing? Modern use in livestock or pet food? Rum production? Importers/Exporters in the 20th century? I like to saw logs! (talk) 20:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misdating of Arthaśāstra

The article references a false dating of the Arthaśāstra of Kauṭilya. Trautmann (cited in article) dates it to ~150 C.E. 2620:101:C040:860:DD20:BF22:56B4:4488 (talk) 21:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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