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Pronounciation
[edit]It is not clear for outsiders how "Hulme" is pronounced: "Hume", "Hull-m", or both? It would be helpful for somebody to clarify it. --189.130.218.97 (talk) 19:06, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- This seems a fair point, although it could be said that the name occurs sufficiently often enough (as a surname, for example) that its pronunciation is intuitive to many. The article on T. E. Hulme has a transcription and the article listing names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations includes an entry for William Hulme. I've inserted a transcription into the article. Pololei (talk) 00:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Discussion page graffiti
[edit]"Changing the reputation of Hulme that was gained in the 1970s and 1980s has been a long process, but one that appears to be being achieved."
- Yeah right. Hulme is still a shithole.
Seconded, Thirded and Fourthed. We got burglarized!
If you don't like it, leave it. The people who live here who contribute to the communities found in Hulme choose to live here and like it.
And I've never been burgled here (perhaps 'cos I don't go making up words/using Americanisms?!).
Disambiguation
[edit]What about a disambiguation page, with a stub to poet T.E. Hulme?
There's lots of other Hulmes, so can't have disambiguation page to all!
Conflicting parenthetical claims
[edit]Copied from the Second World War section (bold formatting is mine):
At the time, the 'Crescents' won several design awards, and introduced technologies such as underfloor heating to the masses (this in incorrect actually, the crescents were 'warmed by an electric warm air heating system, that consisted of a large fan and heating element in an asbestos box under the maisonette stairs). They were also popular because they were some of the first council homes in Manchester to have central heating. The development even had some notable first occupants, such as Nico and Alain Delon.
However, what eventually turned out be recognised as poor design, workmanship, and maintenance meant that the crescents introduced their own problems. Design flaws and unreliable 'system build' construction methods, as well as the 1970s Oil Crisis meant that heating the poorly insulated homes became too expensive for their low income residents, and the crescents soon became notorious for being cold, damp and riddled with cockroaches and other vermin.
Crime and drug abuse became significant problems in Hulme, as police did not patrol the long, often dark decks, due to the fact that they were not officially considered streets. The decks made muggings and burglary relatively easy, as any crime could be carried out in almost total privacy, with no hope for quick assistance from police below (this is untrue as well - police were often seen walking around the walkways during the 1980s).
The crescents became troublesome very shortly after their construction - within a decade, they were declared 'unfit for purpose', and several plans were drawn up that suggested various differing types of renovation and renewal for the blocks, including splitting the buildings into smaller, more manageable structures by removing sections.
I don't which of these unreferenced claims is true, but the discussion ought to take place here, not on the article page, --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 12:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Counterculture
[edit]In the 1980s/1990s Hulme was home to a fertile/furtive counterculture, either encouraged by or a product of the breakdown in governance and policing. Given the level of detail that the article now goes to, does this need writing more fully into the 'Post Second World War' section (or a new section creating)? The BBC says, "It had its own arts cinema the Aaben, and in the late 1970s Tony Wilson had promoted the first Factory nights at the Russell Club in Hulme, before the Hacienda was ever built. Hulme was also politically radical. ... Creative movers including Nico, Alain Delon, Sasha, Mike Pickering, A Guy Called Gerald, the Ruthless Rap Assassins, and Mark Kermode himself, who all lived in, and sometimes performed in, what was otherwise a vast slum. ... 1993's Hulme Demolition Sound System and the amazing night-time performance given by theatre group Dogs of Heaven, when cars were pushed off the top of one of the floodlit Crescents." This is a good place to start, although it is a secondary source. Pololei (talk) 01:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Cleanup tag
[edit]There has been a lot of improvement of this article since December 2006 so prehaps the Cleanup-GM tag is no longer needed.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 07:04, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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