Talk:Isaac Albéniz

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maybe pedia should tell he died 49 years old or just for some days he died in 48,95 ?

He was 48 when he died. --Missmarple 21:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can hardly call him post-Romantic if he died in 1909! A silly label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.79.183 (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed 2600:100E:B077:A684:6963:C045:605:BCDF (talk) 11:56, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of compositions

I believe this article would grealy benefit from a list of compositions, as often found elsewhere on Wikipedia (for example, in the article on Paganini). Nat 14:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is not the Rapsodia española a piece for solo piano? As far as I know, the orchestrated version (for piano and orchestra) is by Halffter. Please verify this and put it correctly. 83.78.158.45 (talk) 16:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Others

You could mention the version by Joja Wendt, a german piano player, he made a great piano piece of it. It's name is also Asturias. Just listen to it, it's great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.63.83.82 (talk) 02:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Catalan? Spanish?

I see the Catalan attribution has just been changed to Spanish by an anon IP. -- Kleinzach (talk) 11:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, catalans are people from a region in Spain called Catalonia, I think if in Wikipedia articles mention the national and not the regional origins of people the article should read "Spanish", the regional origins can be added later in ther article. Otherwise the article about Beethoven should not only say he was German but also he was from Rhine-Westphalia. I'm correcting the article, I hope if anyone disagrees they post their points of view here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.158.132.213 (talk) 21:10, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Catalan people, understood as a cultural group, include also non-Spanish citizens, such as those in Roussillon. For this reason, it is more accurate to keep both adjectives when providing the context for a biographical entry like this one. "Spanish Catalan" (analogously "French Catalan") is a neutral expression that nicely covers both usual meanings of "nationality": legal citizenship and cultural group. Moreover, it prevents pointless edit wars of people changing one label into the other, as proven in highly edited entries such as Antoni Gaudí or Salvador Dalí. Cheers, --Carles Noguera (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paris Conservatoire?

"he took out a ball from his pocket and broke a glass window while playing with it..." Where on earth did they find that???? Most encyclopedia's, and the Source just say he was too young? Is it a rumour, or is there actual information. (I've taken out that part, and submitted the more widely accepted belief, correct me if you have proof)

Composer project review

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. I reluctantly give this article a Start rating; there is a fair amount of good work here, but omissions of material typical of composer biographies, and other numerous defects, force me to lower the rating to Start. My full review is on the comments page; questions and comments can be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 23:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

The whole article lacks references. Makes me hesitant trust anything I read.--76.213.224.91 (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

are there any references to his religious beliefs.--Wisamzaqoot (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia entries about personalities often lack so-called references, and they do not apply appropriate standards. As anyone can edit an entry and there is no professional editorial supervision, of course you cannot trust any entry. You get what you pay for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.79.183 (talk) 00:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Anyone prooving that Isaac Albéniz himself recorded piano rolls, please quote the piano roll bibliographic reference. Thanks--Nyapsicols 16:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margarida Ullate i Estanyol (talk • contribs)

Bright's Disease is an archaic term

I would suggest chronic renal failure is a more current term but having no reference will not edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PietrH (talk • contribs) 16:13, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

citation needed for quote by Albeniz on his early work

regarding following quote: There are among them a few things that are not completely worthless. [...]

I found the source below (a book), it contains the same quote as what is said here. Isaac Albéniz: Portrait of a Romantic, p. 264 Walter Aaron Clark Oxford University Press, 2002 - 321 pages

Google Books source

--Shakamikado (talk) 17:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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==Composers Project Assessment of Isaac Albéniz: 2009-01-12==

This is an assessment of article Isaac Albéniz by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

ok

===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

sketchy on personal and professional details. See summary.

===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

sketchy on personal and professional details. See summary.

===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

Selected works listed.

===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

No public reception (contemporaneous or historical).

===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

One image, one sound; article needs more images.

===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

Article appears to have good references; few inline citations.

===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

Lead is short; footer material needs work; prose structure needs work.

===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review===

Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
Article lead needs work (WP:LEAD)
Article footer material needs organization (WP:LAYOUT)
Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE)
Article prose needs work (WP:MOS)

===Summary=== This article reads almost like two separate biographies. There are details present in the Works section that are not evident in the Life section -- these sections should be more tightly integrated. Personal biographical details (marriage, children) are sparse, and are not really integrated well into the rest of the bio. There are no notable professional details -- we don't know who we worked for or how he earned income (although there is mention of both performance and commissions as presumed sources of income, it is unclear which he depended on more, or if there were additional income sources like teaching).

The Influence section is not much more than a paean to Albeniz; it does not actually discuss his influence (e.g. on the following generation of Spanish composers). The extended discussions of some of his works are out of place; they should go on pages for those works (and summarized here, if a point is to be made about his music with them).

I give this article a Start rating; its defects (and omissions) are too many for it be a B. Magic♪piano 23:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 23:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 19:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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