Talk:It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism

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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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Bernie Sanders in 2020

• ... that in his book It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, Bernie Sanders (pictured) refers to Jeff Bezos as "the embodiment of the extreme corporate greed that shapes our times"?
  • ALT1: ... that in his book It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, Bernie Sanders (pictured) refers to American billionaires as oligarchs?
  • ALT2: ... that it's okay to be angry about capitalism?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Crew Motorfest
  • Comment: DYK hooks try to not unduly focus on the negative, but I don't think ALT0 does "unduly". Bezos.... is who he is. ALT1 does not identify anyone by name, but it's also nothing new, so I don't like it so much. ALT2 could work for an April Fools hook if no other ideas work. Also, the image currently appears in the sidebar. I don't know if that's good enough or if it needs to be in the article itself.

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 01:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment: Personally, I'm not impressed by either ALT1 or ALT2. ALT1 is pretty uninteresting/expected as far as critiques of capitalist wealth go. ALT2, on the other hand, feels like a violation of WP:NPOV, April fools or not. _MB190417_ (talk) 15:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Fair points. I prefer ALT0 but will try to brainstorm some others in case that's not seen as appropriate for the main page. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

    I agree with MB190417, and honestly I'd say ALT0 has the same pitfall as ALT1. This is an entire book — surely Sanders has included some amusing anecdote or unexpected fact that would make for a catchy hook? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

    • • I think I've covered all of the significant anecdotes as reported by the reliable sources. So, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ – Muboshgu (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
• I will say the sources easily check out in terms of reliability and high quality, and it is properly-written. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 22:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
• Full review needed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
• Article is new enough, long enough, and earwig compliant; I have some concerns about the sourcing, though. You seem to be citing quite a few sources that either unreliable or don't demonstrate due weight of the facts they support due to partisanship, including Rolling Stone and WCIV (SBG-owned). I also agree with the above that the hooks presented don't really fly, so it would be nice if others could be fine (although the article is pretty content-heavy). A QPQ has been done – nice work so far, Muboshgu! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look at the sources and try to think of another hook. I don't see a problem with using Rolling Stone or a Sinclair-owned station given the contents and plenty of strong sources are used, like the Guardian, Fortune, NYT, NPR, New York magazine. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

It's almost been a month and I don't have any better ideas. It's Bernie, he's a known quantity. Is this good enough? Otherwise, I'll withdraw the nom. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

• ALT3 ... that Bernie Sanders wrote about his presidential campaigns and becoming angry as a child in Brooklyn in It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism?
  • Yeah, I mean – I think the reason there isn't really an interesting hook popping up is precisely because Bernie is a known quantity. This book seems to be a narrative peppered with his standard talking points, which isn't all that unusual for him or politicians in general. It's classic Bernie, there's not much need for sources to analyze and dissect and follow-up. ALT3 doesn't quite cut it for me, either. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
    • Too bad. I withdraw. Let it die. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)