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Is John Ioannou an actor, or is he actually J.John, this article?--Dthomsen8 (talk) 13:12, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
John Ioannou and J.John are not the same person. SRinMiltonK (talk) 14:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Tinihere: I am confused as to which part of WP:BLPREMOVE you feel applies to this sentence. If you don't like Premier Christian News as a source, J.John's comments and the backlash were also mentioned twice in The Telegraph, which is generally considered reliable per WP:RSN (1, 2). It's not original analysis or synthesis, it's not a self-published source, and it verifies fine. What is the policy case for removing this sentence? —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tinihere - without a response, I'm planning to restore the sentence tomorrow. If you object, please do come here to discuss so we can figure out consensus. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ganesha811 - References connecting people to controversial personalities should be primary. This claim is contentious and should stay removed unless we use J.John's original comment as a reference. See WP:BLP 2nd & 3rd paragraph. Tinihere (talk) 02:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any indication that we require or encourage primary sources for controversial statements. In fact, WP:BLP explicitly warns us against using primary sources. Nothing in that sentence violates the second or third paragraphs of WP:BLP. It states that "all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source" - we have that. This is not poorly sourced material, nor is it irrelevant. The sentence does not sensationalize or mislead. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point. But how do we, as editors, deal with the possibility that this publicity would harm his privacy? Tinihere (talk) 13:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In what way? The story's been in The Telegraph already! The Telegraph story is based on a public comment J.John made on social media! Is the sentence in any way inaccurate? It doesn't demonize him, it accurately describes what happened. There are no privacy issues to be concerned about here. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
