Talk:Jeff Kent (author)

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Dictionary of International Biography

This is not a reliable source, as it is a International Biographical Centre publication (Who's_Who_scam) - so unless anyone can find more independent reliable sourcing for these details, they are liable to be removed. --_nonsense ferret 12:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Also, "Witan Books", "Witan Records", "Witan Films" &c aren't appropriate sources if they're controlled by Kent & exist just to publish his stuff. However, in some cases there are actual independent, reliable sources for the article's claims.

Also, I tip my hat to User:Snoobysoo who started out as an obviously promotional editor who only added Kentspam to this article and to other Witan-related articles, but has recently diversified to a completely unconnected topic, adding "Kent" as a new category of hills (like Munros, Marilyns &c) to Mountains and hills of England. Whilst citing Witan Books. What an enormous coincïdence! 2A02:C7E:1028:F700:B118:727:48E7:5AFD (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality of Article

Hello. There is a question at the top of the article about its neutrality. It's possible this refers to me, as I know the subject, which I've openly stated previously. I believe that knowledge of the subject helps me to contribute relevant and accurate information. My contributions have always been factual and not praising and I've been awarded a Citation Barnstar on this subject for my detailed inclusion of citations, of which I've listed very many. All the information I've put on all the articles I've contributed to have been cited. This can be verified from my contributions. So if the neutrality query refers to me, I think it should be deleted. If it doesn't, then obviously that's a different matter. Snoobysoo (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2021 (UTC) Snoobysoo, 24. 11. 2021.[reply]

There has been no argument put against my above comments. I confirm that my contributions have all been factual and cited and not lauded the subject. I don't have a conflict of interests and can see no-one else with such, so it appears to me that the template message at the top of the article should be removed. Snoobysoo (talk) 15:22, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop spamming. 2A02:C7E:1028:F700:B118:727:48E7:5AFD (talk) 18:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article has serious WP:REFSPAM/ overciting issues, and the creator is clearly linked to, and very keen to promote, the subject of this article and his books. They may even be the same person, or their spouse, for all we know. The amount of trivial detail included based on local printed newspapers is uncanny for someone not intimately or closely associated with the subject. Either way, the close connection template needs to stay and the article cut down to size, and the ridiculous amount of trivial information and duplicate citations cleaned out. I will make a start on that soon. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have since spent a few hours trimming out unencyclopedic, overly-detailed, multiple-cited trivia and WP:PROMOTION, removing WP:COATRACK content and merging duplicate mentions of the same material into single, more succinct paragraphs. The bibliography has also been trimmed down, with publications removed that have already been cited within the article. Minor contributions of their editing work are not really notable and have been mostly removed, again on the basis of self-promotion.

I am concerned that hardly any references are well-cited, and I would like to see authors and better dates, and urls to at least some online sources, rather than to somebody's boxfile of media clippings collected over decades. Five citations are still just to 'Minutes' of meetings which could well be unpublished, and so do not permit WP:V in that state. If it's the case they they were not properly published, they cannot therefore be used as WP:RS.

I remain extremely concerned that Snoobysoo is so closely associated with the subject in some way (perhaps their spouse/partner/friend, or Kent himself) that they have, over the years, turned this Wikipedia article into a bloated and almost unreadable CV full or unnecessary trivia and self-promotion. Their attempt to insert a section about their hill-walking interests into another article is being discussed at Talk:Lists of mountains and hills in the British Isles.

No attempt by Scoobysoo to reinsert or add content to this article should be done without prior discussion and consensus being reached on this talk page. Instead, they should use an WP:EDITREQUEST to seek changes or corrections. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]