Talk:José Manuel Rodríguez Delgado

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The article is prety vague as it starts of in past tense and doesn't specify if he is alive or dead. Kendirangu 14:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True enough. He was alive when the Scientific American article referenced was written. I don't know if he still is or not. -- Bpmullins | Talk 19:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax?[edit]

User:Tchussle suggested the bull event was a hoax, but didn't specify a source. A google search did not yield any source mentionning a hoax or a discrepancy with the shadows appart from wikipedia, so it would be nice to know where this information comes from. I can't see any problem with the shadows personnally... Orphu of Io (talk) 22:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Delgado's Credentials.[edit]

I had read that Dr. Delgado, aside from being a professor at Yale, actually held title to being Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale University Medical School. I can't verify it, but if someone else can, it would be nice to give him that credit.

A good source for qualification of his credentials might be surrounding accounts of his testimony cited at being in the United States Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974. I wish I could bring up the actual transcript, but apparently the entire text isn't publically available online - I'm not officially a scholar and not enrolled in any academic program now, being unemployed like so many other people, and so I don't have access to a lot of stacks.

The testimony he gave is paraphrased in several places. Here is what I've gleaned.

"We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. --1974 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Jose Delgado

"The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain."

Can anyone else please provide feedback on the veracity of these quotes, and perhaps verify that Dr. Delgado actually held a that title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfmagic101 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These quotes are stored in Congressional record, No. 26, Vol. 118, 1974: testimony of Jose Delgado, and as such I think they should go on the main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.220.182 (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I highly doubt that the quote came from Delgado. It reads more like what a conspiracy theorist would like to have said, and I cannot find any reputable source. Doctor Delgado held a position at Yale University. It states he took a fellowship at the University in 1940, but does not indicate when he received the position of Director. Here is a link: http://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/newsandevents/delgado.aspx He served as Director of Neuropsychiatry and Professor of Physiology at the Yale School of Medicine. His work has developed into many useful things, such as neural prosthesis which allows those who have lost limbs to use robotic limbs. Also, in development are implants that could help with Alzheimer's. On the main page is a link to Jose Delgado's book Physical Control of the Mind, and in it you can find his writings on the ethics of his work. Neither the statement claimed above matches his style, nor his outlook. Frankly, if you read the book which we have access to for free, there are hard limits to the technology, and the idea that "armies and generals" will be controlled electrically is not compatible with what the science showed about how the brain works. If someone can find that quote in full from a reputable source, it should be considered, otherwise, it looks like garbage. 65.96.75.136 (talk) 05:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You highly doubt it based on what and who? Who you are anyway? If there are documents out there, why do you say that you "doubt" it? Did you even read them? If not, why do you post a comment here? Are you even interested in the topic? What's your education? Who do you work for? Why don't you post with your Wikipedia account?
In short: I rather doubt that you have anything to say here. The quotes clearly should implemented into the article. But since Wikipedia isn't independent, well... --178.197.236.130 (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Source: "Toward a Psychocivilized Society" can be found on archive.org[edit]

even two different Versions of the book: https://ia902305.us.archive.org/21/items/liste-2-livres-de-geopolitique/Physical-Controle-of-the-mind-Jos%C3%A9-M-R-Delgado.pdf

https://ia800902.us.archive.org/18/items/PhysicalControlOfTheMindJosM.R.Delgado1969/Physical%20Control%20of%20the%20Mind%2C%20Jos%C3%A9%20M.%20R.%20Delgado%20%281969%29.pdf

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