Talk:Kati Patang

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Year of release

Mr. Bollyjeff, Can you provide any evidence regarding Film Kati Patang and Aan Milo Sajna about the date of releases that you have displayed on Wikipedia page. Because I have strong evidence regarding both these film's released dates from National Film Archive Of India,Pune. only the thing is I'm not getting a page or link. Regards, Atul Talashikar

The wikipedia policy is that the earliest release date is the one used; see WP:FILMRELEASE. If Box Office India (and most other sources) say a film was released in year A and gives box office figures for year A, and the awards are given in year B (which is always the next year), it doesn't make sense for you to change the release date to year B. Okay? Now stop making moves without consulting the talk page first and getting consensus. BollyJeff | talk 13:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As you have said , I just want to mark you to pay attention what I want to show. You have said If a film For example Kati Patang as from your sources was released in 1970 that should be able to be nominated in 1971 film fare awards but for your kind information it has shown in the list of 1972 film fare awards as because it was commercially released on 29 January 1971 clearly. You can see film fare web site or binaca geetmala Wikipedia page. My point is if some body want to see a page regarding Kati Patang it should have same released year for all related Wikipedia page but the fact is it doesn't. Regards, Atul Talashikar

Every one one of the following sources, published books and encyclopedia's on Hindi films, lists Kati Patang as a 1970 film. Click on the next button to see all refs to the film in these books. I could not find any of these types of reliable sources claiming 1971. I also have not yet found it's exact release date, but it appears to be late in December 1970. Perhaps for that reason it did not qualify for the 1971 Filmfare awards, which was just a month or two later, so it was qualified for 1972 FF.[1][2][3][4][5][6] I hope this helps, or should I add all these sources to the article. Where did you find your source? BollyJeff | talk 23:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My dear friend, Mr.Bollyjeff, thanks a lot for your data that you have sent to me.But Most of the books and encyclopedia have taken the released year of film Kati Patang as 1970 because the music was released in December 1970 and it has got censored certification in December 1970 that doesn't prove that the film was released commercially on Box Office in 1970 but the fact is film was officially released on Box office in 29th January 1971 and that is why it was included in film fare award list in 1971 category that was given in the ceremony held in the year 1972.You can check film fare awards list or web site. My source is authentic and it is National Film Archive of India(राष्ट्रीय फिल्म संग्रहालय)and on further it was first released in Delhi and North India on above date and was released after in Mumbai and rest India.If you are in Mumbai ,please got to Times of India Library you will get it right information that I have given here.My motive is to give correct information to the people. So please do it. Regards Atul Talashikar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atul Talashikar (talk • contribs) 07:09, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, so you are right and the authors of all those books are encyclopedias wrong?!? How superior-minded and obstinate can a person be? If they all say it is a 1970 film, it is a 1970 film dude. Wikipedia requires sources to verify its text. The best I can do for you is add a sentence saying that 'although it is regarded as a 1970 film, it was actually released in xx on Jan xx, 1971'. But a source is needed. You can't just say 'because I saw it in a museum somewhere'. Find a source. BollyJeff | talk 19:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not like that, please don't take it other way, my self have seen the actual date of release in screen issue of January 1971 and also I've searched a lot in December 1970 issue but I couldn't get it.Also I've not said that the others of encyclopedia are wrong and my self only is right. For that purpose I'll send you the scan copy from of screen issue from National Film Archive of India, Pune. So kindly please send your e-mail ID for the convenience.Similarly you can check the Wikipedia page of Binaca Geetmala Page in which there was not single entry of a song from 1970 list for Film Kati Patang, It has got official entry in the year 1971 only.Regards, Atul Talashikar

I added this discussion that was taking place on our talk pages to get more eyes and opinions from other editors. Please make comments. BollyJeff | talk 17:18, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sice Mr Talashikar has gone through publications of the time around the fim's release (Screen) and files in National Film Archive, I'd tend to believe that. Yes, the censor certificate is from December 1970, but commercial release date may be different. If Mr Talashikar sends you the scanned document, that will be a good source.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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