Talk:Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting

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Richard Carrier? Delete this[edit]

Richard Carrier's personal anecdotes have no relevance whatsoever to this article except that he's a popular figure among the kind of people (and only the kind of people) who edit Wikipedia. That paragraph referencing him should be deleted. Furthermore, the explanation is not even clear, since it says that Arnold incorrectly believed he was level to "mountains 4000 feet below" when in fact both Adams and Rainier summit thousands of feet above 9500 feet. Unless someone cares to clarify this, it's doubly wrong to have it in here. In fact, I'm deleting it myself. 174.114.28.136 (talk) 03:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Any relation between this and the Flying Pancake plane?[edit]

I have noticed that the shape Kenneth Arnold drew in his report looks very much like the Flying Pancake Vought V-173 airplane. Is it possible that Kenneth Arnold simply saw that plane, or the very similar Flying Flapjack Vought XF5U? Does any notable source make this connection? Devil Master (talk) 14:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

That's a good point. Of course, the supersonic speeds recorded by Mr. Arnold is inconsistent with the flying record of the Flying Pancake and Flapjack. I'm not sure if that is relevant, though, as many debunk theories don't take that into account.
--XndrK (talk · contribs · count) 21:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Not to mention, if it was a Flying Flapjack, it would have been flying backwards. --XndrK (talk · contribs · count) 21:43, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd say that what Mr. Arnold saw was probably some Horten Ho 229 captured by US troops and being tested in secrecy in the US. The aircraft was the right shape, and the design was much more advanced than any other jet plane of the time.79.167.143.88 (talk) 19:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Missing Project Mogul paragraph(s)[edit]

Why isn't there any mention of Project Mogul?

Project Mogul involved strings of weather balloons on fishline: lifting a microphone, radio transmitter, radar reflectors, battery, and other stuff. What Arnold saw was obviously part of one of these assemblies - balloons in a line. Arnold didn't see the fishline and being an experienced pilot thought he was seeing aircraft flying in formation. Vastly overestimated the size, distance and speed.

It's well understood that a Project Mogul assembly came to grief on a ranch near Roswell, NM and really whipped up the UFO craze. So it's not any nutcase theory. How it got to Washington's easy: separated from the payload (fishline parted) the string of balloons went around the world on the jet stream. That's not unreasonable either, the Japanese were sending balloons with payloads across the Pacific. Mogul being a classified project, the Air Force could not simply explain what it was. Those that knew had to keep silent and let those who weren't briefed to deal with the press. The hype actually helped shield the real project and its purpose. Friendly Person (talk) 02:54, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Seven decades since Kennth Arnold sighting[edit]

June 24, 207 marks the 70 years since this UFO sightenings by KENNERTH ARNOLD,Yet still the ufo topic is covered in doubt.Wondering also if any on the D C 4 passenger plane Mr.Aronold saw about the same time . Saw anything.Article didnt say. Thanks.``