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Biology[edit]

I think it was better the first way, with the word "biology" linked to biology, instead of also going to kingdom (biology). And besides, if you do it for "biology", why not for "politics"? (Not that I'm saying you should, I still think it should be reverted.) -- John Owens 06:03 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)

I did this redirect because someone reaching this page wants to know about Kingdom (biology), not Biology; that's why they came to the page in the first place. jaknouse 06:07 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)

I reworded to include both relevant links. Is this acceptable to everyone? Tuf-Kat

Monarchy[edit]

Are a kingdom and a monarchy the same thing? The reason I ask is because I have always thought a monarchy is what has power over a kingdom, but I've never used it myself as a descriptive of the country. -- Graham :) 18:22, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

No, they are not. It is from the greek: monos (one) and arkhein (rule). As we understand the word, a monarchy is hereditary. So the duchy of Luxembourg is a monarchy. GerardM 11:04, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
In which case, why does a dismabiguation page for kingdom redirect people to monarchy? -- Graham :) 11:19, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
A Kingdom is a monarchy ruled by a king or queen. As such the redirect is OK as monarchy explains the other aspects of what a kingdom is.

Kingdom[edit]

Are kingdoms the same everywhere? That seems highly unlikely. We still have kingdoms in the modern era such as in the Middle East with Saudi Arabia or Morocco. Are there kingdoms in East Asia? Are they the same as kingdoms in Western Europe? What is the idea of property ownership in a kingdom? Does the king own it all? Is that what happened in Western Europe with serfdom? Wouldn't the concept of a kingdom have changed over time, even in the same area or region? Is Charlemagne's kingdom at the point where they are really just beginning to form kingdoms, the same as the Kingdom of France under Louis XIV? Certainly, there is enough subject matter to explore, isn't there and consequently develop an article about it? Anyway, these are some of the reasons why I came to this article to find answers to. I think the article's development would be well worth it... Stevenmitchell (talk) 08:15, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 17 July 2017[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved(non-admin closure) Kostas20142 (talk) 11:51, 26 July 2017 (UTC)



KingdomKingdom (disambiguation) – As this page as a dab page says "Kingdom commonly refers to: A realm ruled by a king or queen" so I propose that this page is moved to Kingdom (disambiguation) and this page is redirected to realm. A hatnote added to Kingdom (disambiguation). This move would tick various bullet points in WP:CRITERIA and also meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PBS (talk) 07:13, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

  • A better target would be monarchy. —  AjaxSmack  00:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
    Why do you think that? "Monarchy" would be better for "king", but surly a "kingdom" is a "realm"? -- PBS (talk) 07:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
    If this were Wiktionary, I might agree. However, I am looking at the actual content of the two articles. The realm article is a glorified DICDEF with a mere one paragraph of text examining the term and not the phenomenon. The monarchy article, on the other hand, deals extensively with the phenomenon, and nearly all of the monarchies described there are also kingdoms. Readers wanting to learn about kingdoms would be far better off directed there.  AjaxSmack  00:33, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Agree with Ajax. I'm surprised we have an article at realm. —Srnec (talk) 03:38, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Given the confusion above, (it's unclear which of the two articles might be of more interest out of realm and monarchy), and the prominent claim of Kingdom (biology), I see no reason to change the status quo. A dab page gives readers the choice to go to whichever article they wish.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

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