Talk:Kosovo national football team
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Any suggestions or something else to edit? Write your comments here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlboBlood (talk • contribs) 09:14, 29 June 2006
Elo ranking Beratademaj1997 (talk) 21:51, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The results?
[edit]I think there's something wrong with the "unbeatable" Kosovos match results.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovos_herrlandslag_i_fotboll
In comparison with the Swedish article the results are whole different. I doubt that the Swedish article is more likely to be credible... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.207.129 (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Clean up
[edit]This needs a serious overhaul, I'm trying, but any help is apprecaited.--Tiresais 16:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Shefki Kuqi wouldn't be able to play for Kosovo, he is capped over 40 times for Finland, making him ineligable. Martin Le Roy 15:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Then remove him, be bold :b (he's removed anyway)--Tiresais 17:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Many of the players listed appear to have been capped by Albania and are over 21 years old - meaning they could not switch allegiance under the standard FIFA rules. If they had been capped for Yugoslavia or Serbia & Montenegro, I think they could switch allegiance to Kosovo. If these Albania caps can be confirmed, I think the players should be removed. Jogurney 17:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In international football, players are normally committed to play for a specific national team to the exclusion of all others once they play in all or part of any match recognised as a full international by FIFA. However, an exception is made in cases where one or more newly-independent states are created out of a former state. Based on current FIFA rules, a player will be eligible to play for Kosovo, even if he had previously represented Serbia, if at least one of the following statements about him is true:
- He was born in Kosovo.
- At least one of his parents and/or at least one of his grandparents was born in Kosovo.
- He has lived in Kosovo continuously for any two-year period.
I can't see that someone who has represented Albania could switch allegiance to Kosovo however.
taken from Fifa's website Grunners (talk) 17:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- So that means that the Kuqi brothers are also eligible?
- What I was going to ask too: have the players in the "recent call-up's" list played for Kosovo already or have they just been called up without playing? I'm asking cause on the page of the Albania national football team it says, for example, that Lorik Cana (among others) has said that he didn't want to play for Kosovo and will continue to play for Albania. If all of this is true, then to me such a list of players who have only been called up and have not played (yet), doesn't make much sense, at least all other National team pages (that I've looked at) don't have such a list. Anyways, I'm just asking cause I'm curious. UmutK (talk) 07:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just checked some other list's and apparently I was wrong, there are players with 0 caps in their respective country's "recent call-up's"-list, so either forget what I've said or share your opinions on why it should or should not have such players in it.UmutK (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Biggest win
[edit]The footnoted article refers to the match as being in Monaco, but this page states that the game was in France. Where was it actually played? Paploo 18:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The match was in Cap d'Ail, just across the border in FRANCE, where Monaco are forced to play as they are not entitled to use AS Monaco's home ground.
Does anybody have any news about the Kosovo upcoming matches? They seem a bit unusual to say the least. Why would Kosovo play Burundi in Algeria, for example? And why would they play a city (Jakarta)? and not Indonesia? 155.245.34.250 (talk) 20:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Kosovo vs. Brasil (olympic squad)
[edit]There is a report that the Kosovo team will play the Olympic Brasilian national squad on July 26. The game will take place in Switzerland. [1]. --DaQuirin (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- There isn't a recap on the Brazil vs. Kosovo game, meaning it wasn't ever played. But I'll keep looking for sources. :D Cheers TheAustinMan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC).
Kosovo must play in the qualification matches!
[edit]I know, they are not a member of FIFA or UEFA, but they must play in the 2014 World Cup & in the EURO 2016 Qualification matches... Böri (talk) 10:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
This is not a place for putting political opinions Bevo74 (talk) 10:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
The UK recognised Kosovo. Böri (talk) 10:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
If they join UEFA or FIFA that would mean they could enter,it is not down to the UK Bevo74 (talk) 10:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Squad section
[edit]Someone has added a squad to the article, however the squad is unsourced, the Kosovo Football Association doesn´t mention it, and I am affraid that it is just OR and a random pick of players who someone would like to see playing in a Kosovo NT. I´ll wait a day to see if someone presents evidence that those players are really part of some Kosovo national team, if not, the entire section will be deleted. FkpCascais (talk) 16:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- OK, no one cared to source the squad or even mention if the Kosovar FA picked these players. As I haven´t seen anything about Kosovo FA calling any squad recently, I will remove the squad section which seems totally made up. FkpCascais (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- That looks good to me. bobrayner (talk) 19:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Flags
[edit]Why is flag of Republic of Kosovo same as the Albanian flag in this article?
- @195.252.66.205: It's about the time that they played matches (at infobox). Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 21:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Biggest loss
[edit]If the biggest loss (5 goals) was an official game, then why include the biggest unofficial loss (2 goals) Joeykai (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Joeykai: As you see at my edit I added an new option Permitted by FIFA and I left official as "not yet". Because saying official it's mean to have fully recognised by uefa and fifa. In other side unofficial mean not permitted by uefa and fifa and even recognised, thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Allowed or disallowed by FIFA, that shouldn't matter. As long as they are matches against another NT, they are all Kosovo's games. I would get rid of the unofficial loss. --Bunjaktorollak (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Bunjaktorollak: no pal you can't do it. It's important for others to know the time before and after Kosov was permitted to play a friendly match with other Fifa members. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 12:59, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, but if the biggest loss overall was an official game, then why list any other loss?Joeykai (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Joeykai: Just because it was not permitted by Fifa.Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Are matches sanctioned by FIFA?
[edit]Even though negotiations with FIFA and Serbia mean that teams from other nations may now play Kosovar teams without fear of reprisal from FIFA, does that mean FIFA sanctions the matches? My thought is no, because Kosovo is not a FIFA member. If one peruses FIFA's website to find results of matches, one will not find any record of Kosovo, or even of Martinique, who qualified for the final round of the 2014 CONCACAF Women's Championship which also served as the qualification tournament for the 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup. If FIFA has no records of Kosovo playing in any matches, then surely the matches were not sanctioned by FIFA. — Jkudlick tcs 16:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
New team against Burkina Faso
[edit]Link. Invited Bernard Berisha and Valmir Sulejmani. PoshteMorriKuq (talk) 13:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
@PoshteMorriKuq: I saw early this news also at Panorama Sport but was little late cause I personally should had go to work, but let me update the Squad right after finish the job between the time 23:30 - 00:00, thank you bro. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I wanted to do it myself, but I often make too many mistakes. Maestro Spinelloccio (talk) 01:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
First game vs Albania in 1993
[edit]I found here a different date and a similar but different line-up. FkpCascais (talk) 04:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
@FkpCascais: Very good but it's some confused, plus it's just a forum and I think is not reliable source. The matter it's to find the missing full names such as Nushi, Osmani, Idrizi, you what you think? Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 16:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I know Eni that it is just a forum and we don't know how certain the information is, but we can have it here as possibility and search more. I am searching for the missing names from the line-up, that is how I got to this forum. Could it be that Kosovo and Albania played two games, one after another? I will try to confirm if there is any trouth in that game mentioned in the forum, or not. FkpCascais (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
@FkpCascais: Thank you, I wish you a good work for that. Despite that however more important it's to find the match stats. of it against Monaco won 7-1, it's only one which is missing currently. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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Edit war over flags for coaches
[edit]I see there is some edit-warring over the flags indicating nationality of the coaches as Kosovo_national_football_team#Managerial_history. As far as I know and see it as common practice in most notable club and national team articles, the flags foor coaches should indicate the nationality of the coach at time he was coaching the team. Not birth, not present-day, but at time he was there coaching. Agreed? FkpCascais (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, it's the same with nations. if a country changes it's flag any flags used in articles for competitions or whatever occurring prior to that change use the flag from that time. Fenix down (talk) 06:02, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I am glad this discussion has started, but I dont agree. The flags are different because if a nation changes flags, it is still the same nation but just a new flag to be used. About people, it is a case of identity. If I were born in Barcelona, I would be Spanish and even if Catalonia (Barcelona area currently discussing independence) would break out from Spain, I would still be Spanish and should be indicated as such. It is my country that I was born into, so why should I not be displayed as such? Qed237 (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry QED, do you agree or not, your example seems to indicate that you stick with the original flag which is what is being argued above. We shouldn't be changing flags for historic managers to the current flag because they were not of that nationality at the time of their tenure. Fenix down (talk) 09:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Fenix down: Sorry if I was unclear (English is not my native language) and if this is still unclear let me know and I will explain as good as I can. I want flag from time of birth. If a person is born in Yugoslavia, he is Yugoslavian (is that how you say it?). Just like if I was born in Barcelona, Spain, I am Spanish (not catalan if Catalunya would become independent). Your nationality is what you were born into, and that is what flags in front of BLP's should represent. Qed237 (talk) 12:01, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I've changed them, also following FIFA nationality guidelines, so they're correct to the period they were coach. Not sure why the SFR Yugoslavia flag is used to represent someone's nationality at the present. VEOonefive 09:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Fenix down: Sorry if I was unclear (English is not my native language) and if this is still unclear let me know and I will explain as good as I can. I want flag from time of birth. If a person is born in Yugoslavia, he is Yugoslavian (is that how you say it?). Just like if I was born in Barcelona, Spain, I am Spanish (not catalan if Catalunya would become independent). Your nationality is what you were born into, and that is what flags in front of BLP's should represent. Qed237 (talk) 12:01, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry QED, do you agree or not, your example seems to indicate that you stick with the original flag which is what is being argued above. We shouldn't be changing flags for historic managers to the current flag because they were not of that nationality at the time of their tenure. Fenix down (talk) 09:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I am glad this discussion has started, but I dont agree. The flags are different because if a nation changes flags, it is still the same nation but just a new flag to be used. About people, it is a case of identity. If I were born in Barcelona, I would be Spanish and even if Catalonia (Barcelona area currently discussing independence) would break out from Spain, I would still be Spanish and should be indicated as such. It is my country that I was born into, so why should I not be displayed as such? Qed237 (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Please add Category:European national association football teams. 46.200.26.232 (talk) 23:00, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Done — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 00:52, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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Grammar template needed
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Elo ranking
[edit]To edit elo ranking position Beratademaj1997 (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Elo ranking 94 up 1 13 October 2018 Beratademajj1997 (talk) 16:40, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
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I want to have the right to edit in the article of Kosovo national football team due to I can contribute by adding to the facts about the Kosovo national team. I ask from you to let me contribute. IlijaPoroshenko (talk) 11:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, Can I change Elo's ranking to the Kosovo national football team at wikipedia and how can I change it? Beratademaj21 (talk) 08:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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UEFA competitions & Kosovo F.A. Logo at the start
[edit]Ive noticed that under the Uefa competitions, specifically Euro 2008, Kosovo is mentioned as part of Serbia. This is not correct an is offensive. 2008 was when Kosovo declared independence from Serbia and that year marked the first attempt for Kosovo to join FIFA & Uefa. Kosovo declared independence in February and the event was held in June. Please fix to state not a Fifa member.
Also, why is the Kosovo FA logo missing from the top of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.21.153 (talk) 20:35, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
About Kosovo national team's Yugoslav era
[edit]"The reason of this friendly match is that we wanted to face with a team that has the same temperament and character as Albania national team."
—The reasoning of the then head coach of Yugoslavia, Rajko Mitić for the reason for organizing the Kosovo–Yugoslavia match.[1]
Dear editors, especially @FkpCascais:
As long as there is no explanation as to which level of teams (professional teams or amateur teams) have played against Kosovo then I am removing the links of these teams with the articles of the existing teams even though the references set say the match that Kosovo played against Yugoslavia, in the Yugoslav composition were the professional players who played this match because of the mentality that Kosovo had with the opponent of Yugoslavia, which in this case was Albania (confirmed by Rajko Mitić).[1] In order not to have a conflict between the editors if you admit it once again I am removing the links of these teams with the articles of the existing teams, this only applies to the chapter of the Yugoslav era. The moment they are clarified then we will add them. ManiacOfSport (talk) 13:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@ManiacOfSport and FkpCascais: I am the editor who added the matches of Kosovo during the Yugoslav era and based on the references which are also found in the main article, in the references until the moment of publication I have not seen the level type (professional or amateur) of teams mentioned that have played with each other, the reason I have linked the names of the teams with the articles of the existing teams is with the idea that given that the existing teams during the Yugoslav time were amateurs or semi-professionals which after separation from Yugoslavia have become professional teams for example, Croatia during its time under Yugoslavia played a match against Indonesia in Zagreb although the match was amateur level, still Croatia has introduced it as part of the history for because he considered the team at that time as the successor of the professional team. The way the story about Yugoslav era of Kosovo national team was published is based on that match. Approximately the team of Kosovo and Croatia have the same history that after the matches played as part of Yugoslavia they had a long break and after independence from the Football Association of Yugoslavia in the 1990s, they returned as professional teams.
I hope it is clear, respectfully, BalkanianActuality (talk) 14:14, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- There are explicitly mentions oh how those teams were Amateur teams of each of the republics and provinces. Those were NOT by any means nothing even remotelly close to "national teams". A team of SR Croatia did played against Indonesia but that has nothing to do with this Kosovo case. FkpCascais (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @FkpCascais: Okay, but to the connection of the then team with the article of the current team as in the case of the Croatia-Indonesia match, when you click on the name of the PR Croatia [national amateur team], you immediately redirect to the article of the Croatian national team and seeing this action that is being done I have connected the names of the teams then with those of the current teams seeing that all those teams that at that time were amateurs are now professionals and play professional matches (except Vojvodina), which means that Bosnia national team is successor of Bosnia amateur team, Croatia national team is successor of Croatia amateur team, Kosovo national team is successor of Kosovo amateur team, [North] Macedonia national team is successor of Macedonia amateur team and Slovenia national team is successor of Slovenia amateur team and after independence from Yugoslav football have become professionals have become national teams. This is the only reason why I made this connection in order to show that Kosovo in the time of Yugoslavia had a team (at that time compared to the current quality, it was completely amateur), but that with the passage of time after the separation from Yugoslav football has turned into a professional team when all this transformation has taken off after 2014 when they are allowed to play friendly and was concretized in 2016 when it was accepted in UEFA and FIFA, while I also have a saved photo, where it is seen that Kosovo U20 (now U21) during the time of Yugoslavia had held a preparatory camp where in that camp was already the late Fadil Vokrri. BalkanianActuality (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- You are making a slight confusion there @BalkanianActuality:. The Croatian team that played a friendly against Indonesia in 1956 Croatia v Indonesia football match was NOT an amateur team. All Croatian players were professionals and the team was pretty much how Croatian national team would have looked at that point. It was the representative team of Croatian Football Subassociation. You can´t compare that with the amateur teams that played in that tournament you refer to. The amateur teams not only excluded the best players of each of the republics and provinces, but excluded all which played professionally. Yugoslav First League became fully professional in 1967, meaning, since then all players of all YFL clubs were professionals, while Yugoslav Second League was semi-profesional, with best players of major clubs often being professionals. Players playing abroad were almost allways professionals, unless they were playing in some minor amateur club. So, to make those "amateur national teams" they were left with mostly third league players. It is not even remotelly similar to real national teams. Amateur national teams is something more like railway workers teams, or, police teams, or post officers teams. Amateur teams were made in Yugoslavia to promote amateur football, so people could have fun and play without needing to be a pro. I think you are missing out the difference between professional and amateur. FkpCascais (talk) 19:35, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b Mendrit Shehu (18 November 2019). "Kosova, kalvari sportiv e miqësorja e harruar me Jugosllavinë" [Kosovo, the sports ordeal and the forgotten friendly with Yugoslavia]. Gazetasi (in Albanian).
FFK Logo (new)
[edit]The logo used on this wiki is incorrect. The Kosovo team and the Kosovo Football Association (FFK) have similar but fundamentally different logos.
The logo used on this page is the FFK logo and not the logo of the National Team. The national team Logo states Kosova instead of FFK at the very top.
Please correct this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.184.183 (talk) 13:42, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Vedat Muriqi.jpg put this photo besides the goalscorers table. 95.60.52.243 (talk) 08:42, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now: Unfortunately, that image file is very low-quality. It disrupts the article and does not add much encyclopedic value. Actualcpscm (talk) 12:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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Could you add Kosovo's FIFA profile: (https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/associations/KOS) and UEFA profile: (https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/national-associations/KOS/) to (External links)? 41.47.101.229 (talk) 09:44, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:11, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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