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- 1 Cause of Destruction
- 2 Krypton's Moons
- 3 Krypton and other worlds
- 4 Problems
- 5 Merge
- 6 Merge from Kryptonians
- 7 Naming of the planet?
- 8 Regarding the Merge ...
- 9 In-universe tag
- 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Rtk2.jpg
- 11 Gravity
- 12 Vandalism
- 13 WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required
- 14 Social Darwinism?
- 15 C-Class rated for Comics Project
- 16 Daxamites
- 17 New Krypton
- 18 Krypton's sun "discovered"
Cause of Destruction
I keep reading that the cause of the planet's destruction was an unstable core but none explaining how it got like that. Last night I watched something called "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" in which batman noticed Darkseid had countless hell spores each of which were capable of destroying a planet's core. Could this be what happened to Krypton? Pyrolord777 (talk) 14:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Shortly before the 10,000th anniversary of Krypton’s civilization, Jor-El discovers evidence that Krypton’s uranium core may cause the planet to explode (ACTION #216, pg. 11, panel 6)
The Guardians of the Universe assign Tomar-Re, Green Lantern of Krypton’s space-sector, to gather enough stellarium to neutralize Krypton’s uranium core in order to delay Krypton’s explosion. (This apparently takes several years, but does succeed, though Black Zero's efforts later causes the reaction to resume.) (SUPERMAN #257 (2), pg. 2, panels 1-3, 5-pg. 3, panel 7)
Shortly after witnessing this speech, Black Zero notes that Krypton’s internal stresses are weakening, but starts them up again with a missile device (SUPERMAN #205, pg. 9, panels 1-6)
[Jor-El uses a mechanical mole to penetrate into Krypton’s interior, is irradiated by deadly radiation, and passes this on to Lara, but not Kal-El (SUPERBOY #158, pg. 23, panels 3-5) NOTE: This may not be canonical.]
Tomar-Re strives to reach Krypton (SUPERMAN #257 (2), pg. 7, panels 2-5)
In the book The Last Days of Krypton by Kevin Anderson, Jax Ur was portrayed as a dictatorial warlord who reigned over Krypton with an iron fist and purposefully used his "nova javelins" (nuclear warheads) to destroy the moon Koron (NOT Wegthorn), a moon that is not mentioned in this article.
Other sources I have seen list these moons as moons of Kyrpton: Wegthorn, Koron, Mithen, and Xenon. Xenon fell out of orbit and away from Krypton. With Xenon lost from orbit and Wegthorn destroyed by Jax Ur, this leaves Koron and Mithen as the last two moons of Krypton. Should this be mentioned in any of the sections of this article?
Krypton and other worlds
So, did Krypton used to have contact with many other worlds? I recall something in superman 1 or 2 with Christopher Reeve, where he is in his crystal chamber watching the hologram of his mother saying that they have an archive of X number of galaxies. Either Krytonians had been there or had the ability to spy on them without them discovering who was. The snare (talk) 21:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Krypton did have contact with other worlds. In a story called "Birth of a name" it was revealed that Krypton's first inhabitants were themselves space travelers with the man's name Kryp and the woman's name Ton. In Action #574 in was revealed that Krypton had an Olympic like event with Ostok a planet within Krypton's own solar system (Ostok's people were all but wiped out by the solar radiation triggered by Krypton's explosion).
- However by that time Krypton's history was a total mess with contradictions (like there being a fully established space program when Jor-El was a young man.) that trying to pull anything out of it just give you a headache.--BruceGrubb (talk) 02:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
The whole banning space travel thing doesn't seem to make much sense to me at all. Not for a civ that advanced. They probably would just fix whatever made it dangerous. But there are a lot of contradictions aren't there. How could civ with no space travel experience/knowledge of space-ships have then made the FTL rocket that took Superman away from Krypton then? The snare (talk) 04:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Andromeda near the Pisces constellation
- Some modern writers have stated Krypton to be from this galaxy. This could be true.
- Within the Pleiadian chain under the Aquarius constellation.
Krypton no longer exists as it was destroyed as a result of highly unstable geological conditions.
- Jeez, I'll say! :-)
- Never mind that, I once removed the comment "pu also is what pluto is made of" from plutonium - now that's something to worry about :) --Camembert
The entire civilization and race of Krypton perished in the explosion, except for one sole survivor: the baby Kal-El
- What about Supergirl? Her home city exploded off of Krypton and formed an asteroid, which the citizens covered with a dome to keep air in, then the city was destroyed and she was the only survivor. Or has the Superman universe changed this lately? -- Zoe
Looks like the original is credited to Roger Stern et al (see http://www.unstable.com/oraclewiki/index.php?title=Krypton). I'm deleting it from here because the poster of the bulk of this did much the same with a Babylon 5 article, and I don't really think a blatant copyvio in a talk page deserves the rigmarole of a VfD... --Eric TF Bat 06:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Someone should mention Krypton as depicted in the 1948 serial and the first episode of the 1950s television show.
Don't merge This would be like placing all information about humans in the article on Earth. CovenantD 07:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC) Merge Not really, there isn't as much info because Kryptonians are a fictional race. Exvicious 22:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC) Don't Merge If you merge it, you risk making the Krypton article too long and then you get a "this article is too long" tag. - Defunctzombie 03:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, the best way to resolve that matter is to trim down the chubby article that currently is squatting here. We don't need to list every publishing detail for Krypton when we can take an overview of how Krypton has been treated or envisioned by successive generations of editors and writers. If people want the specific publishing details, we can furnish a link to do that.Arcayne 22:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Merge from Kryptonians
- Merge because the Kryptonians article is a short article that rehashes information that goes into more detail in this article, Krypton (comics), not to mention the multitude of Superman articles. Exvicious 08:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Merge Tai112 10:51, 13 November 2006 (Eastern)
- Obviously "Krypton" and "Kryptonians" are not the same thing. However in the interest of saving space and making referencing easier, I vote Merge. An article listing the (numerous) kryptonian characters there have been throught the years might be justified, however. -Wilfredo Martinez 16:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think these two articles should be merged. Krypton & Kryptonians are two different subjects. Just leave them alone & let the Kryptonians article expand as time passes on. Son of Kong
I think that both articles would benefit fromt he merging. Just as the list and personalities (and fashion sensibilities of the planet and its inhabitants have evolved over time, I think they aren't really supposed to be separate articles. I vote for a merging.Arcayne 22:37, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
My argument is pretty much above... what's your opinion? Exvicious 08:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Naming of the planet?
I have one question. If the planet Krypton is named after the chemical element, why? 184.108.40.206 17:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- All I can tell you is that it seemed really, really obvious to me the minute I saw the periodic chart of the elements in science class when I was a kid – indeed, Jerry Siegel or whoever came up with the idea would be hard-pressed to come up with some other source IMHO. My own guess is that it just sounded like a cool name, but surely, there is a source about this somewhere. The article on the element Krypton doesn't say where that name came from either; maybe it was kind of mysterious, "cryptic", who knows. Knowing how something got its name has always been a real interest of mine, and something that looms as large as Krypton even in the larger society deserves a clarification of where the name came from IMHO. Shocking Blue (talk) 10:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I really don't think this is a stub, so I'm removing the stub tag. As far as I know, this has never been officially explained (in the stories) the assumption is that it is merely a linguistic coincidence. Note: One pre-Crisis story (in SUPERMAN #238) hinted that Kryptonians are descended from two seemingly human space travelers who found themselves stuck on the planet. Their names: Kryp and Tonn. -Wilfredo Martinez 16:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, I think that is the very first time I've ever heard that particular theory. But then again, if it was pre-Crisis, it's likley no longer canon.
- Kryp and Tonn...lol...Arcayne 22:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, it's part of the Elliot S! Maggin Superman mythos, too, being mentioned in the Last Son of Krypton novel. Another pre-(or barely post-)Crisis Maggin explanation says the name comes from the Kryptonian word for ice or glacier, hence the white dog named Krypto. But as they're both retcons, it doesn't have any relation to the original naming by Seigel & Shuster. Noclevername (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Krypton was named back in the day when Kryp and Tonn, both space explorers, landed on ancient, unpopulated Krypton and become the progenitors (Adam and Eve) for the Kryptonian people taken from the second story in SUPERMAN #238 JUN71. I think her name was Tonn and his was Kryp. First marriage for both.
Regarding the Merge ...
That one wasn't very cut and dried, and as it's a few months old, I'd rather see someone re-list it or be bold, if they're a regular contributor. The Glossary should probably go to Wictionary anyway, and may make this page too long. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this article suffers an in-universe problem. -- Beardo 14:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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I removed (further, Krypton had much heavier gravity, making them all stronger as well, their muscles evolved/adapted to the greater resistance). from the Golden Age description; AFAIK that wasn't orginally part of the concept, but was added during the early Silver Age. If I'm wrong, someone cite and return it, please. Noclevername (talk) 02:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Nothing serious, but "Silver your face Krypton" isn't correct. I came here to read up on Krypton and there's a bunch of stuff wrong. I don't know enough about this to correct things, so someone else should. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 01:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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"In keeping with the Social Darwinist theories popular at the time, the people of Krypton were thus said to be more "highly evolved" than Earth's younger, more primitive race. This can be seen in the early descriptions of Superman having come from "a race of super-men" in early comics and serials, and one of the labels associated with him, "The Man of Tomorrow"."
The concept of Social Darwinism described was not actually Social Darwinism at all, nor was it very popular "at the time", assuming "at the time" refers to any time during the existence of Superman. I'll leave it for a week, welcoming argument, but I don't feel like re-writing those sentences to salvage information so in a week I;m just going to erase it all.Landfritter (talk) 03:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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I asked this at Talk:Daxam, but it's relevant here too.
Were the Daxamites described as descendants of Kryptonian colonists pre-Crisis? Obviously, the story about the Eradicator affecting their DNA to give them the vulnerability to lead is a post-Crisis story, because the Eradicator didn't exist pre-Crisis. But were there any pre-Crisis attempts to explain why the powers of Daxamites and Kryptonians were so similar?
This article currently mentions the Daxamites' Kryptonian origins in the Silver Age section. Until my last edit, it also mentioned the Eradicator, who can't have been part of the pre-Crisis origin of Daxam, as the character/device hadn't been created yet. Should the Eradicator's role be removed altogether from the Daxam section, as it's mentioned later in the "Modern to Post-Modern" section? And were the pre-crisis Daxamites descended from Kryptonians? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Krypton's sun "discovered"
" Well, that’s about to change. DC comics is releasing a new book this week – Action Comics Superman #14 – that finally reveals the answer to this stellar question. And they picked a special guest to reveal it: my old friend Neil Tyson.
Actually, Neil did more than just appear in the comic: he was approached by DC to find a good star to fit the story. Red supergiants don’t work; they explode as supernovae when they are too young to have an advanced civilization rise on any orbiting planets. Red giants aren’t a great fit either; they can be old, but none is at the right distance to match the storyline. It would have to be a red dwarf: there are lots of them, they can be very old, and some are close enough to fit the plot.
I won’t keep you in suspense: the star is LHS 2520, a red dwarf in the southern constellation of Corvus (at the center of the picture here). It’s an M3.5 dwarf, meaning it has about a quarter of the Sun’s mass, a third its diameter, roughly half the Sun’s temperature, and a luminosity of a mere 1% of our Sun’s. It’s only 27 light years away – very close on the scale of the galaxy – but such a dim bulb you need a telescope to see it at all (for any astronomers out there, the coordinates are RA: 12h 10m 5.77s, Dec: -15° 4m 17.9 s)."
so I think we should add the name of krypton's sun - LHS 2520 - to the article