Talk:LGBT parenting

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject LGBT studies (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 
WikiProject Sociology (Rated C-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
 


Discredited research being added again[edit]

@TattonWest: you should know better than this. The "research" is "mentioned" exactly where it should be - a side note that points out that no one reputable considers it valid. Wikipedia does not require false balance between mainstream views and fringe views; rather, we go with what mainstream scientific research and scientific bodies say. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 14:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

  • The research was not entirely discredited. The journal did not retract it. There are reputable scientists supporting the research. And there are several other studies that conjoin. I find it a violation of NPOV to not mention this in the main body of article. Also, the fact that some view is mainstream (who defines mainstream anyways? what about global context?) does not mean that it is correct, and that other views should not be mentioned. I am certain that in context of Wikipedia articles any professor of a recognized university publishing in a peer-reviewed scientific journal is a credible source for including material on a Wikipedia article's page. Aside from this, American College of Pediatricians amici curiae recognized such studies. They have been published in various established medical, sociological and family studies journals. Link to the amici --202.166.79.224 (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
I would note that the ACP is a splinter group of roughly 60 to 200 pediatricians (in contrast to the AAP's 60,000), whose mission statement is explicitly grounded in faith. Including their opinion would violate one stipulation of NPOV: Equal validity can create a false balance.PotvinSux (talk) 22:47, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on LGBT parenting. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

Question? Archived sources still need to be checked

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 00:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on LGBT parenting. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

Question? Archived sources still need to be checked

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 11:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on LGBT parenting. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

Question? Archived sources still need to be checked

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 06:55, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Improve the article? This wiki project is for everyone, do not delete again please as you show your true hateful colours by doing so[edit]

One assumes that you are in favour of diversity, if so you need to have real diversity of opinions too, without hateful finger pointing (invasion of the body snatchers style now favoured by the extremists). Such as to discuss and investigate the many studies that asked the children involved if they would prefer a Mum/Mom AND a Dad or would they prefer two dads/two Moms or whatever will come in the next round of equality cravings. Maybe just ask some children yourself as many already have and maybe, just maybe the feelings, rights and futures of the children that deserve both their biological Mum/Mom and Dad in their lives will be put first, rather than the often (not always) selfish personal desires of the adults who dictate the child's lifestyle and hide behind idealogical, so called studies. Let us see just how inclusive, tolerant and diverse the article becomes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.142.202 (talk) 20:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

First of all, it would be polite to sign your contributions, as requested, instead of waiting for a bot to do that. Just click on the four tildes below to insert your signature; it's as simple as that. And then it would have been a good idea to follow the link Rivertorch's Evil Twin gave you (WP FORUM); it would have explained why your contribution was removed, namely for objective Wikipedia policy reasons, not because of any bias. The talk page is not for your (or anyone's) personal opinion on the matter. Finally, the suggestion you make ("ask some children yourself"), comes down to "original research" which is excluded on Wikipedia. If you think that you can add useful aspects to the article, please find a reliable source (like a published study) you can link to.
And yes, I'm perfectly fine with this being deleted together with your contribution after you had some time to read it. In principle, I should have posted it on your user talk page, but I fear you might not find it there. Please feel free to react on mine; we should not take this any further here. Sigur (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Sigur for your eloquent reply. Fair enough, your points are reasonable and I should have taken more notice of the rules. I am new to all this and so am not so techy wiki savvy, even this time as the ip address changes every few hours. The subject is powerful, provocative and for many, very personal and to have the comment (which was intended to help improve the article as the talk page description asks) deleted off without (it appeared) any reason, one concluded the worst, which now appears wrong. Please forgive this novice and as there are more important things to worry about, let us perhaps move forward as friends, rather than enemies. We might even leave this conversation on here to show that we can and should (all) be free to disagree without being disagreeable. Kindest regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.146.167 (talk) 12:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)