Talk:LZ Granderson
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"Politically charged" statements vs. "politically charged" content/NPOV
[edit]I would encourage the person who deleted content from the page to discuss first, and bear in mind that NPOV is not obtained by removing POV, but adding POV. The content removed summarized disputes that were "politically charged", but major political controversies are of encyclopedic value in an article about a political pundit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.205.17 (talk) 12:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- WP:BLP trumps all of this. You cannot have potentially disparaging statements on an article about a living person without references. That's why I deleted it without adding {{citation needed}} tags. — X96lee15 (talk) 14:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Perusing X96lee15's edit history and user page, a great deal of common background and interest between Mr. Granderson and X96lee15 becomes apparent. I am just going to go ahead and ask: X96lee15, are you in fact LZ Granderson? WP:CONFLICT — 164.107.38.165 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 11:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC).
- That is irrelevant. Every edit this account has made has been in accordance with Wikipedia policy. — X96lee15 (talk) 15:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Mr. Granderson I presume, rather than getting into a semantic debate over the "letter of the law" here on Wikipedia, I would just ask you this question: do you really believe that editing your own Wikipedia page to strike important facts about yourself that you consider unflattering is in keeping with the spirit of Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest policies? Isn't behavior like that addressed specifically in the "How not to handle a Conflict of Interest" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.38.165 (talk) 15:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Dude, I am not LZ Granderson. WP:BLP trumps everything, which is why I removed the initial statements without adding {{cn}} tags and is why I haven't deleted those same statements again now that references have been added. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you say so, dude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.38.165 (talk) 16:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Dude, I am not LZ Granderson. WP:BLP trumps everything, which is why I removed the initial statements without adding {{cn}} tags and is why I haven't deleted those same statements again now that references have been added. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Mr. Granderson I presume, rather than getting into a semantic debate over the "letter of the law" here on Wikipedia, I would just ask you this question: do you really believe that editing your own Wikipedia page to strike important facts about yourself that you consider unflattering is in keeping with the spirit of Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest policies? Isn't behavior like that addressed specifically in the "How not to handle a Conflict of Interest" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.38.165 (talk) 15:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
LZ is a name?
[edit]Was he born with this name? Enquiring minds would like to know.... Snori (talk) 06:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Nothing. It's not initials. My father's name is spelled Elzie. He wasn't much of a father to me so I switched the spelling but kept the phonetics.... Snori (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- LZ's full name is Elzie Granderson. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/24609 24.104.113.226 (talk) 12:22, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
His full first name
[edit]In an ESPN chat session, LZ Granderson explained his first name:
Kev (NYC)
What does LZ stand for?
LZ Granderson (4:28 PM)
Nothing. It's not initials. My father's name is spelled Elzie. He wasn't much of a father to me so I switched the spelling but kept the phonetics.
Is that a reliable source for his first name Elzie, as well as the Mlive.com article already referenced? Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:56, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Another source: Ubuntu Biography Project Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:58, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for putting that guy in his place on CNN. He is always putting black people down. I yell at the tv all the time when he speaks. He a Republican Hack! 2600:8801:2F12:2A00:30EE:7D22:8846:3E8D (talk) 02:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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