Talk:Lahaina, Hawaii

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Halloween is not being sanctioned this year. Front Street will not be closed and no keiki parade is scheduled nor permits issued.Nokaoi2007 (talk) 02:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

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The median household income seems to be off by about $100,000 according to some research I have been doing on Google. What gives? Mah58@georgetown.edu 02:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

According to Place Names of Hawaii, Lāhainā is the old pronunciation. It seems like this page and Lahaina (the redirect) should be switched. KarlM 08:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Moving Article[edit]

I'm moving the article from Lāhainā, Hawai'i to Lahaina, Hawaii. This aligns it with the US census rendering [1] and the United States Geographical Names Service [2]. It also seems to be the common usage (the only diacritics I could find on the first 10 google hits are the ones for the wikipedia article) [3]. Lastly, there seems to be more wikipedia-internal links to "Lahaina" versus "Lāhainā" [4] Erudy 16:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Etymology[edit]

The Star-Bulletin of July 13, 1920, gave two versions of "How Lahaina Got Its Name," which merited more attention than it received. The first version differs from the well-established tradition in assigning the point of departure for Kahiki, as from Lahaina, instead of from the west point of Kahoolawe. It also introduces us to the pioneer Ad Club of the islands, boosting the charms of Maui, in the eleventh century. But their slogan, "laha aina" (proclaiming land), though dropping a superfluous a to form the new name they had adopted, would not give us the accent on the last syllable as Hawaiians pronounce it.

The second version sounds more reasonable, and aids somewhat in our search for the time when the name Lahaina was substituted for its former one, Lele. The newer name clearly shows it to be commemorative of a notable day in the history of the place. In the time of Kakae and his brother, Kakaalaneo, about 1630, it was still known as Lele. When after this period the change occurred is not clear, but analysis of the name, as properly pronounced Lā-hai-nā, would be "a day of calamity, or cruelty," and such an experience is known to have befallen Lahaina in the battles of warring chiefs waged for supremacy, more particularly following the death of Kekaulike, in the invasions of Alapainui of Hawaii, about 1735. But the change of name must have taken place earlier than this date. [1]

Is this enough to be an Etymology of the name Lahaina? KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep. It's covered in Clark's The Beaches of Maui County. Viriditas (talk) 09:26, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

The correct spelling has a kahako over the first and last a in Lahaina. La with a kahako over the a means sun. haina with a kahako over the last a means cruel. Literally meaning Cruel Sun. If you've ever been to Lahaina you know how hot it is. This is the way I've heard it from Uncle Nalu. Nolahainamaiau (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Notwithstanding, if you actually go to the online Hawaiian Dictionary linked in that footnote, you find no such thing. "Lā hainā" yields nothing. Enter "Lahaina" on the other hand, and you get two entries (one a common noun, the other the placename), neither one having to do with cruel sun or being hot. The "hot" derivation is a recurring folk etymology, sometimes ascribed to King Kamehameha. This, for example, from the autobiography of Admiral Robert Coontz, p196:

"One of our officers inquired the origin of the name "Lahaina." He was told that King Kamehameha who conquered the island and united the Hawaiian group, upon landing there, stepped out of his canoe, took off his head covering, wiped his forehead, and exclaimed, "Lahaina," which being interpreted means, "Hell, ain't it hot?"

The WP entry should probably be fixed. 24.136.4.218 (talk) 12:18, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

  1. ^ All about Hawaii: Hawaiian Annual for 1922 The Reference Book of Informationc and Statistics Relating to the Territory of Hawaii. Page 86